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I don't believe anyone is promised life through the tribulation, are they?
I am wondering if you ever read Revelation 7:14, 9 because that great crowd of verse 9 go through the great tribulation mentioned at verse 14.
So, the figurative humble ' sheep ' at Jesus' coming Glory Time of Matthew 25:31-33,37 can remain alive on Earth, and be here on Earth to not only see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000 year reign over Earth, but with the opportunity to gain everlasting life right here on Earth without ever having to die because Jesus will bring an end to enemy death on Earth - 1st Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8
So some sinners are born under the Love of God and some sinners are born under God's hate. Its brought forth clearly also in Rom 9:11-14
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Jacob as all the Elect of God are born sinners under the Love of God, and Esau as all the reprobate, the non elect, are born under the hate of God.
Many will say because of this that God is unrighteous !
This bigoted nonsense is pure evil born of Satan. It has nothing to do with God or Jesus. Shame on you.
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
τῆς ἀγάπης τοῦ θεοῦ
The definite article before Love ,lets us know that Paul is emphasizing the One and Only Love of the One and Only God, and its only in Christ Jesus our Lord !
What does that mean therefore ? How about Jn 3:16 ? If the World of Jn 3:16 were not already a Chosen World in Christ Jesus, a World Chosen in Him before the Foundation Eph 1:4, then it would be a World that God did not so Love, for God cannot Love and does not Love anyone outside of Christ, already covered with His Righteousness and Washed in His Blood, for His Love can only be in Christ Jesus Our Lord !
Those born outside of the pale of Election in Christ, are not Loved but hated by God !
This bigoted nonsense is pure evil born of Satan. It has nothing to do with God or Jesus. Shame on you.
So you saying like the implied response would be if God loved some and not all, that it makes God unrighteous ! Woe to you friend Isa 45:9
9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
So you saying like the implied response would be if God loved some and not all, that it makes God unrighteous ! Woe to you friend Isa 45:9
9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
God's Holy Spirit IS agape love and you blaspheme it with your evil beliefs about His love for us all.
God's Holy Spirit IS agape love and you blaspheme it with your evil beliefs about His love for us all.
All of Gods judgements are righteous-- He promises to wipe the wicked off of his earth, and he will, through Jesus. Matthew 7:22-23 is judgement to the ones who practice sin. Hebrews 10:26--there is no sacrifice left for any who practice sin. they have been warned.
Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day-In Noahs day-99.9% were wiped off Gods earth in righteous judgement. Noah warned everyone who came for 40 years, they laughed at him.
2Timothy 3 is todays world. hearts are filling with hatred all over the earth.
The men in the ot who were righteous like the bible writers had YHWH holy spirit--Here is Samson getting that holy spirit-Judges 13:25-Judges 14:5-6--with infusion of that holy spirit, Samson tore a lion in 2. No man can do that without God behind him or with him. Through Holy spirit it happened. The same with the bible writers.
All of Gods judgements are righteous-- He promises to wipe the wicked off of his earth, and he will, through Jesus. Matthew 7:22-23 is judgement to the ones who practice sin. Hebrews 10:26--there is no sacrifice left for any who practice sin. they have been warned.
Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day-In Noahs day-99.9% were wiped off Gods earth in righteous judgement. Noah warned everyone who came for 40 years, they laughed at him.
2Timothy 3 is todays world. hearts are filling with hatred all over the earth.
The men in the ot who were righteous like the bible writers had YHWH holy spirit--Here is Samson getting that holy spirit-Judges 13:25-Judges 14:5-6--with infusion of that holy spirit, Samson tore a lion in 2. No man can do that without God behind him or with him. Through Holy spirit it happened. The same with the bible writers.
The God of Jesus the Christ is my God and He would not tear a lion in two or destroy anyone or eternally punish anyone. God is no one to fear. He will try to help us avoid any negative spiritual consequences from our ignorance and selfishness. You worship an evil God, IMO.
The God of Jesus the Christ is my God and He would not tear a lion in two or destroy anyone or eternally punish anyone. God is no one to fear. He will try to help us avoid any negative spiritual consequences from our ignorance and selfishness. You worship an evil God, IMO.
All scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching 2Timothy 3:16--So the god you claim to serve you keep calling his words lies. Where will that get you? God wiped 99.9% off his earth in Noahs day. Jesus was an eye witness and speaks of it in the NT. Luke 17:26-- are Jesus words truth?
All scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching 2Timothy 3:16--So the god you claim to serve you keep calling his words lies. Where will that get you? God wiped 99.9% off his earth in Noahs day. Jesus was an eye witness and speaks of it in the NT. Luke 17:26-- are Jesus words truth?
You attribute every word to Jesus without testing the spirit of any of it against God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus on the Cross. That is why you and our ancestors erred. They believed in a wrathful vengeful God, NOT the God revealed by Jesus on the Cross.
They misinterpreted and misunderstood the real significance of what Jesus came to teach and to unambiguously demonstrate about God's True Nature. It has been a travesty of primitive ignorance perpetuated by vain and arrogant clergy who made no effort to reconcile what should have been obvious from the beginning.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
That God does not Love all men, but in fact that He hates some, is seen here in this most hated by natural man portion of Truth, and if this verse was not enough for there is another that even more so reveals God's hate for Esau and Love for Jacob Mal 1:2-3
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Thats discriminant Love. This hate is not a sinful passion of hatred like Titus 3:3
3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
And God's hate of an individual does not deny them creature comforts, His providential care as their Creator, thats clear from Jesus words here Matt 5:44-45
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:r for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth gain on the just and on the unjust.
God forbids His Children to ck human compassion for his fellow creature [though they may be a enemy to Truth] they are still from a creature perspective his neighbor. Jesus Illustrates this point here Lk 10:29-36
29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
In Vs 33 that word compassion is the greek word splagchnizomai and means:
to be moved as to one's bowels, hence to be moved with compassion, have compassion (for the bowels were thought to be the seat of love and pity)
Let me give you an example of how this can practically play out. Those who are false gospel preachers and enemies in the gospel like those of Gal 1:8-9 or those false teachers who come bringing a false doctrine of Christ and believers are to show them no hospitality whatsoever as Per 2 Jn 2:1:10
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
Now in this situation no hospitality should even be allowed. Now, if this same person was seen by us perhaps in a burning car and could use our help in saving their life, then we should not lack the human compassion to attempt to save that persons life in any way feasible, just because they are an enemies of the Truth ! There should be a love or a compassion in us to aide that person even though from a spiritual stand point they are our enemy. We still should not ever invite them to hospitality in our homes as before in 2 Jn 2:1:10
A person does not have to be another believer in order for us to show human compassion for them which is another form of love !
Yes, I believe God Loves the non elect in that capacity as their Creator, not as their Heavenly Father, and God's Children should Love the non elect in that way but not as their brothers in Christ !
Even in natural things of doing good, preference should be made to those of the Household of Faith over the unbeliever Gal 6:10
As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Even that imperative is discriminating !
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