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Old 10-30-2021, 10:07 AM
 
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I have two grown children. I haven't agreed with all of the decisions they've made, and there have been times that they've hurt me by thoughtless comments. Still, I can't imagine anything either of them could do that would ever cause me to stop loving them. Somehow, I think that God's love must be even greater than mine.

 
Old 10-30-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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I have two grown children. I haven't agreed with all of the decisions they've made, and there have been times that they've hurt me by thoughtless comments. Still, I can't imagine anything either of them could do that would ever cause me to stop loving them. Somehow, I think that God's love must be even greater than mine.
But would you love anyone else's kids if they hated you, cursed you, and did harm to you and your family?
 
Old 10-30-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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I have two grown children. I haven't agreed with all of the decisions they've made, and there have been times that they've hurt me by thoughtless comments. Still, I can't imagine anything either of them could do that would ever cause me to stop loving them. Somehow, I think that God's love must be even greater than mine.


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But would you love anyone else's kids if they hated you, cursed you, and did harm to you and your family?
There aren't anyone else's children. We are all God's children despite the bigoted wishes of those who do not think so.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 11:38 AM
 
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There aren't anyone else's children. We are all God's children despite the bigoted wishes of those who do not think so.
What verse says that?

Jesus actually said The Pharisees were children of the Devil in John 8.

We're told in Ephesians 2 that we are born children of wrath. We are born in sin, and we rebel against God. It's who we are by nature. So no, we are not born children of God. Nothing in the bible suggests that.

That's why we need to be born again, as John 1:12-13 says.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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What verse says that?

Jesus actually said The Pharisees were children of the Devil in John 8.

We're told in Ephesians 2 that we are born children of wrath. We are born in sin, and we rebel against God. It's who we are by nature. So no, we are not born children of God. Nothing in the bible suggests that.

That's why we need to be born again, as John 1:12-13 says.
Our ancestors believed that anyone who ACTED like a child of the devil was a child of the devil and anyone who ACTED like a child of God was a child of God. That is true, but it is not how they were BORN.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 01:30 PM
 
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But would you love anyone else's kids if they hated you, cursed you, and did harm to you and your family?
I'm sure I wouldn't have it in me to love them, but I think God would.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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I'm sure I wouldn't have it in me to love them, but I think God would.
Based on Jesus Christ's reaction to scourging and crucifixion, I agree.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 01:36 PM
 
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Whatever. I don't think that's up to you to say. I mean, it's kind of above your pay grade, if you know what I mean.
I see he is back flapping his gums, again.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 01:36 PM
 
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Whatever. I don't think that's up to you to say. I mean, it's kind of above your pay grade, if you know what I mean.
I suspect we are dealing with one of those unmentionable posters, Katz.
 
Old 10-30-2021, 01:37 PM
 
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But would you love anyone else's kids if they hated you, cursed you, and did harm to you and your family?
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I'm sure I wouldn't have it in me to love them, but I think God would.
I would want to know why they hated me, cursed me, and were doing harm to me and my family

Things like that do not just happen without a reason, they would probably not have a correct picture of who I was and who my family were
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