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Old 11-12-2021, 11:39 AM
 
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I like your question. I’ve often wondered if all the dogs I’ve had and loved in my lifetime will be in heaven. I hope so, but if not, that’s okay. I trust that heaven will be a wonderful place, regardless.
Most people do not realize just how important the state of mind of love is. Only those things in your life that have been in your love will be retained. Everyone and everything that you love or have loved and bonded with will be with you.
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:57 AM
 
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If you could ask God just ONE question, what would it be?

Why did you let or allow men to use their own imagination(s)?
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:03 PM
 
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I'd ask:

What is the deal with Adam and Eve? I mean, really!

If I got 2 questions it'd be:

What's the deal with the Nephilim?
"What is the deal with" is rather vague. What deal are you talking about? You seem to be pointing out some perceived problem. Be specific. It's your one shot at getting a question in. Don't blow it!
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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If you could ask God just ONE question, what would it be?

Why did you let or allow men to use their own imagination(s)?

I'm not a spokesman for God in such matters, but I'll try to answer from my lowly perspective.

Imagination is the ability to hold objects and events in your mind, even when they are not immediately present to your senses. The power to do that serves as the basis for all rational thought - holding concepts as pure abstractions in the mind, testing them, finding relationships between them, etc. - - a process that couldn't get started without imagination.


Rational thought is the fruit of Logos, The Son Himself, spoken of in the Gospel of John.
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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I'm not a spokesman for God in such matters, but I'll try to answer from my lowly perspective.

Imagination is the ability to hold objects and events in your mind, even when they are not immediately present to your senses. The power to do that serves as the basis for all rational thought - holding concepts as pure abstractions in the mind, testing them, finding relationships between them, etc. - - a process that couldn't get started without imagination.


Rational thought is the fruit of Logos, The Son Himself, spoken of in the Gospel of John.
What do you mean by rational or rationality? Is it not the quality or state of being reasonable or that of having sound judgment without descending into the rabbit hole of extremeism?
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:59 PM
 
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"What is the deal with" is rather vague. What deal are you talking about? You seem to be pointing out some perceived problem. Be specific. It's your one shot at getting a question in. Don't blow it!
God knows what I mean, lol! For the rest of you, specifically it's original sin via a single couple and an apple.

Many, many people have "trouble" with Adam and Eve, so I'm not alone in that.
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:23 PM
 
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Do you regret giving "man" free will"? From where I stand, that has been a "train wreck", but maybe I don't see the big picture.
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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What do you mean by rational or rationality? Is it not the quality or state of being reasonable or that of having sound judgment without descending into the rabbit hole of extremeism?

I mean the same thing you mean, I think. Symbolic, abstract thinking. Reason is necessary for language. You make a word stand in the place of a thing. A tree, obviously, is not the sound "tree". The sound "tree" is a placeholder for that big green thing over there. But before you can do that, you first have to have an idea in your mind of "treeness" (a Platonic form). That might not be a uniquely human ability, but I doubt that there are many non-human creatures who have the trick. A whale or an elephant, maybe, but almost surely not a frog. Thank God our species has it!



"Reasonable" and "sound" judgements are the product of being able to abstract, conceptualize and symbolize. And none of it would happen without imagination - seeing things in the mind's eye.
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:51 PM
 
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Do you regret giving "man" free will"? From where I stand, that has been a "train wreck", but maybe I don't see the big picture.

Yeah, the jury's still out on that one. Opinion is divided. Let me know if you hear anything!
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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I mean the same thing you mean, I think. Symbolic, abstract thinking. Reason is necessary for language. You make a word stand in the place of a thing. A tree, obviously, is not the sound "tree". The sound "tree" is a placeholder for that big green thing over there. But before you can do that, you first have to have an idea in your mind of "treeness" (a Platonic form). That might not be a uniquely human ability, but I doubt that there are many non-human creatures who have the trick. A whale or an elephant, maybe, but almost surely not a frog. Thank God our species has it!



"Reasonable" and "sound" judgements are the product of being able to abstract, conceptualize and symbolize. And none of it would happen without imagination - seeing things in the mind's eye.
I agree

And this ability/gift we have also needs free will and decision making to be able to act upon/build upon it

Also in there is communication and co-operation (or dispute)

So “we” need to be allowed to explore, experiment, and part of that is making mistakes which we (hopefully/eventually) learn from
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