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Old 11-13-2021, 03:05 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I would ask God how he was able to create everything from nothing, especially being that he's just a spirit.
The Genesis story doesn't actually have God creating the universe out of nothing and can be understood, in keeping with the other ancient Near East creation stories, as creating the universe out of already existing material.
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Old 11-13-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: equator
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Oh, I agree it probably is. But then you have the whole can of worms upended. What is myth, and what is not....
I came upon these short videos that were helpful to understand my own question re Adam and Eve and Creation....4 min. first one and 7 min. second one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqzM4gs8tDg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVsbVAVSssc

Maybe they'll shed light for someone else, too.
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Old 11-13-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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And actually, this bishop (I'm not even Catholic) explains original sin in a clear, understandable way I've never heard it before. I think I almost get it now:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdmsnbz1-EE
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Old 11-13-2021, 05:15 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I came upon these short videos that were helpful to understand my own question re Adam and Eve and Creation....4 min. first one and 7 min. second one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqzM4gs8tDg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVsbVAVSssc

Maybe they'll shed light for someone else, too.
Good videos, and I agree with much that was said.

You might be interested in the thread below that I started some time ago.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/chri...-adam-eve.html
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Old 11-13-2021, 07:53 PM
 
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I think the first part of the first link was rather goofy . The second part of that, and the Catholic one, were not out in left field .
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Old 11-13-2021, 08:04 PM
 
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Like for real, what’s it all about?!?
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Old 11-14-2021, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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What a sad universe to live in when animals are kept out of heaven. You JWs

My question to God would be why do animals have to suffer when it was man who messed things up? h54, read up or watch a few youtube videos on people who met their pets in heaven after a NDE. I can't imagine some people think God just lets animals live briefly, suffer, then die , for good?

I haven't liked that part either Zero, but keep in mind, that suffering started with the sin of Adam, these things have to be until the settling of the issue is complete. Soon satan will be bound, and those alive will personally live the contrast between satans domain, and Jehovah's Kingdom. Then when satan is loosed, we will be able to choose on which side to stand.
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Old 11-14-2021, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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"Why?"

It might be interesting to see the response...why what? What would you presume the question to be?
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Old 11-14-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: So Cal/AZ
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God knows what I mean, lol! For the rest of you, specifically it's original sin via a single couple and an apple.

Many, many people have "trouble" with Adam and Eve, so I'm not alone in that.
I always wondered this, It was very satisfying to read the true story.

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...4-adam-and-eve

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...t-adam-and-eve
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Old 11-14-2021, 10:13 AM
 
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Like for real, what’s it all about?!?
That was a song in "Jesus Christ, Superstar" wasn't it? "What's it all about...."
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