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Old 11-24-2021, 06:35 AM
 
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Here are a couple of things that science knows beyond doubt:

The Appalachian mountains are over 200 million years old. [It may be that their age is the reason that they are not as tall as some other ranges, due to settling.]

Humans have existed on the earth for less than 200,000 years.

Therefore, for humans to have survived a global flood, it would have to have taken place after the mountain ranges were formed, which renders it impossible due to the lack of water mass to cover the mountains.

The story of the Great Flood is allegorical. Learn from it. Don't take it literally.





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Were you unaware of this sirGenesis 8:4) . . .In the seventh month, on the 17th day of the month, the ark came to rest on the mountains of Arʹa·rat.




Yes. And are you aware, Mensa sir, that you are required to believe in Genesis and accept the story even if you are atheist ? Have you not been paying attention?
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Old 11-24-2021, 07:09 AM
 
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It is the way I wrote it sir, I guess I should have put a period instead of a comma. I stated the world contains enough water to flood it completely. Scientists believe and we were taught in school that the land masses were once together. In fact they still are, just that oceans erode the land, therefore altering boundaries.


Water does not go anywhere, so if the ice completely melted we would be flooded, not covering mountains completely as mountains have grown in height, as well as valleys deepened.
I asked you to provide a link to your claim, which you failed to do.

Two people in this thread have stated that the volume of water needed to cover the earth to the height of mountains renders the global flood an impossibility.

The land mass (Pangea) was together as one from about 335 million years ago until about 200 million years ago. As it broke up, some of the first mountains formed (the Appalachians). Later, the newer mountain ranges formed that included the taller ones.

Much, much later, humans evolved on the earth. That happened ~200,000 years ago. Since the claim is that Noah and his family survived the flood, the flood had to have taken place after humans existed, which means that large mountains already existed, which you already admitted with your remark about the ark landing on Ararat.

In order to cover Ararat with water, trillions of cubic MILES of water, beyond what exists on the entire earth, would be required. Since such a volume of water does not exist, and has never existed, a global flood could not possibly have happened.

Read the story as a parable, fable, or allegory. Learn the lessons it contains. Don't try to make it a literal event.
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Old 11-24-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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The story of the Great Flood is allegorical. Learn from it. Don't take it literally.
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Read the story as a parable, fable, or allegory. Learn the lessons it contains. Don't try to make it a literal event.
Just curious, mensa... what lesson(s) do you take to learn from the Flood narrative?
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Old 11-24-2021, 01:24 PM
 
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Just curious, mensa... what lesson(s) do you take to learn from the Flood narrative?
I think I asked that exact same question earlier. What IS "the lesson" to be learned?
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Old 11-24-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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There are a number of lessons that can be learned from the story of the Great Flood.

Here are some search phrases that yield numerous answers:

what is the lesson behind noah's ark

what is the message behind noah ark

What does the ark symbolize in the Bible

What does Noah's ark teach us about God


Suggesting which lesson resonates with you is beyond my abilities. Read and learn.
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Old 11-24-2021, 01:35 PM
 
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There are a number of lessons that can be learned from the story of the Great Flood.

Here are some search phrases that yield numerous answers:

what is the lesson behind noah's ark

what is the message behind noah ark

What does the ark symbolize in the Bible

What does Noah's ark teach us about God


Suggesting which lesson resonates with you is beyond my abilities. Read and learn.
But I asked the question of you personally.
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:32 PM
 
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But I asked the question of you personally.
You may have better luck trying to nail jello to the wall.
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:03 PM
 
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Y’all are asking an atheist to explain to you the lessons from the story of Noah’s Ark and the Flood
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:19 PM
 
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Y’all are asking an atheist to explain to you the lessons from the story of Noah’s Ark and the Flood
As far as I know, mensaguy has always declined to make public his personal beliefs or lack thereof on this forum.
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Old 11-25-2021, 04:37 AM
 
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I asked you to provide a link to your claim, which you failed to do.

Two people in this thread have stated that the volume of water needed to cover the earth to the height of mountains renders the global flood an impossibility.

The land mass (Pangea) was together as one from about 335 million years ago until about 200 million years ago. As it broke up, some of the first mountains formed (the Appalachians). Later, the newer mountain ranges formed that included the taller ones.

Much, much later, humans evolved on the earth. That happened ~200,000 years ago. Since the claim is that Noah and his family survived the flood, the flood had to have taken place after humans existed, which means that large mountains already existed, which you already admitted with your remark about the ark landing on Ararat.

In order to cover Ararat with water, trillions of cubic MILES of water, beyond what exists on the entire earth, would be required. Since such a volume of water does not exist, and has never existed, a global flood could not possibly have happened.

Read the story as a parable, fable, or allegory. Learn the lessons it contains. Don't try to make it a literal event.



Here you go sir: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/gen/7/20/s_7020
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