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Old 11-27-2021, 04:52 PM
 
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Yes, typos occur, and you knew exactly what I was asking. So, once again, do angels have sex?



Actually, the OT says your god is flesh numerous times.

Genesis 3:8
He spoke to Moses face to face.
Exodus 33:11
Exodus 33:20
Exodus 33:22-23
Exodus 34:5
Deuteronomy 23:12-13
Ezekiel 1:27
Ezekiel 8:2
And, the concept of horns are not of the devil but....God has horns coming out of his hands.
Habakkuk 3:3-4

And then, in the NT, it says differently.

John 4:24
Luke 24:39

The darn bible can't make up it's mind what it should claim.




Weasel words. Tyre was never destroyed by anyone COMPLETELY. Not by Nebuchadnezzar, not by Alexander, who is not mentioned in your bible stories.

It never happened, no matter how you want to spin it. And Tyre exists to this day. So, bible fail. Why are we not surprised.
Well, I didn't say that solely because of the typo, but also because it's a silly question. What is the purpose of that question?
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Old 11-27-2021, 05:12 PM
 
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Default For Christians who don't think there was a world-wide Flood, then who is Noah?

The misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the Bible stories stem from one central problem - the refusal to accept that it is a spiritual book that is to be interpreted spiritually, NOT carnally. It is NOT a science book. It is NOT a history book. It IS a spiritual book.

Unfortunately, our carnal ancestors were terrified of Spirits so they were unable to interpret it spiritually. They were hung up on fables and genealogies and old wives tales despite being told not to be and to interpret spiritually.

1 Timothy 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
1 Timothy 4:7
But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
2 Timothy 4:4
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
2 Peter 1:16
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Apparently, even most people today are incapable of seeing the actual spiritual content or at least unwilling to make the effort. The most amazing thing about it all to me is that the Torah contains a truth that can be interpreted carnally by those who need it and simultaneously contains the actual spiritual content hidden deep within the text. If that doesn't evidence divine inspiration, nothing ever will.
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Old 11-27-2021, 05:45 PM
 
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Well, I didn't say that solely because of the typo, but also because it's a silly question. What is the purpose of that question?
Because the bible gives different narratives in different parts about angels having sex. It's not a silly question.
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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His is based on the science that allows you to tap on your keyboard and have words come out on other people’s computers, on the science that powers ships, submarines, and cities by splitting the atom , and that has defeated numerous diseases that the religious world couldn’t pray away . Yours is based on Bronze Age religious myth , even if you find this myth in your Bible .

All knowledge originated with Jehovah sir, or it didn't, that is the truth of the matter. But you might consider, what if it did?
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Old 11-28-2021, 07:13 AM
 
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All knowledge originated with Jehovah sir, or it didn't, that is the truth of the matter. But you might consider, what if it did?
If all knowledge originated with Jehovah, why then , for example, did Jehovah not convey how to cure polio or smallpox long ago , before men discovered how through experimentation only in the early modern era ? Why does Jehovah not now tell us how to cure other diseases, especially ones that affect and kill children , that we have not yet figured out?
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Because the bible gives different narratives in different parts about angels having sex. It's not a silly question.
What are those different narratives, in your view?
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Old 11-28-2021, 11:08 AM
 
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What are those different narratives, in your view?
You mean you didn't know, and this atheist does? I thought you studied the bible?

Read:

Yes

Genesis 6:2, 4
Jude 6-7
Genesis 19:1-4


No

Mark 12:25
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Old 11-28-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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You mean you didn't know, and this atheist does? I thought you studied the bible?

Read:

Yes

Genesis 6:2, 4
Jude 6-7
Genesis 19:1-4


No

Mark 12:25
You don't even have a prima facie argument for a contradiction from those verses.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:41 PM
 
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Because the bible gives different narratives in different parts about angels having sex. It's not a silly question.
Many scholars agree that the "angels" descended to earth and copulated with human women resulting in a race of giants. Goliath being among the last of them.

But why are atheists on here arguing about Christianity? This is supposed to be for believers, according to the TOS, right?

If you want to study up on sexual angels, Dr. Michael Heiser has several books and videos on the subject. Half of the books' content are references, so it's not just his opinion.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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Many scholars agree that the "angels" descended to earth and copulated with human women resulting in a race of giants. Goliath being among the last of them.

But why are atheists on here arguing about Christianity? This is supposed to be for believers, according to the TOS, right?

If you want to study up on sexual angels, Dr. Michael Heiser has several books and videos on the subject. Half of the books' content are references, so it's not just his opinion.
Nope, in fact according to the second post here https://www.city-data.com/forum/reli...-may-26-a.html anyone can post here.


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