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Old 04-17-2023, 01:18 PM
 
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Is there a living human being.who perfectly does what God commands?
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Old 04-18-2023, 12:23 PM
 
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Yes , Jesus was that man. Only he is God.No, offense good friend Brightfram52.
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Old 04-18-2023, 01:40 PM
 
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Yes , Jesus was that man. Only he is God.No, offense good friend Brightfram52.
Yes Jesus fulfilled the Law of God perfectly, for His People, but every other human being that lived on this earth, NO. Jesus wasnt a sinner, everyone else is.
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Old 04-27-2023, 03:51 PM
 
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Truly freewill is a larger field of theology rich and secrets not revealed and realizing if you have freedom to choose God gave it. It needs depth researching to finds the secrets God intended us to.
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Old 04-27-2023, 03:55 PM
 
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God gave us freewill , he gave it in Eden if they did not have freewill the devil could not of rebelled in heaven something I like not talking about. We can choose and the bible does say to choose to sin or to choose not to sin given people the choice.
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Old 04-27-2023, 04:09 PM
 
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There's no virtue without there also being the potential for choosing what's WRONG. (Sinful.)

This is Philosophy 101. And the mythical story of the Garden Of Eden is simply an illustration, exemplifying the truth: yes, we do have free will. It is mitigated by circumstances, of course.
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Old 04-28-2023, 01:31 PM
 
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the verses their are more that explain your argument I have read them but read deep in scripture, only helping you guys understand truly freewill a huge area that we need to see the whole picture and see how God will want it. Not thru our own experience but what he originally planned in the Eden...
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Old 04-28-2023, 01:32 PM
 
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you only see one point of the whole area doesn't mean your are right but on the contrary you just hold that one word such freewill a word in the modern world has created does not mean it doesn't exist. Freewill exist and god created it and wants us to see it how he holds it to see he has.
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Old 04-28-2023, 02:32 PM
 
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you only see one point of the whole area doesn't mean your are right but on the contrary you just hold that one word such freewill a word in the modern world has created does not mean it doesn't exist. Freewill exist and god created it and wants us to see it how he holds it to see he has.
Our human free will is not absolutely free

We have various limitations and boundaries, natural , societal and religious and that is built into the design and cycles that happen
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Old 04-28-2023, 03:00 PM
 
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Our human free will is not absolutely free

We have various limitations and boundaries, natural , societal and religious and that is built into the design and cycles that happen
Mortal man is endowed with free will, the power of choice, and though such choosing is not absolute, nevertheless, it is relatively final on the finite level and concerning the destiny of the choosing personality.

118:6.5 (1300.1) Volition on any level short of the absolute encounters limitations which are constitutive in the very personality exercising the power of choice. Man cannot choose beyond the range of that which is choosable. He cannot, for instance, choose to be other than a human being except that he can elect to become more than a man; he can choose to embark upon the voyage of universe ascension, but this is because the human choice and the divine will happen to be coincident upon this point. And what a son desires and the Father wills will certainly come to pass.
https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...time-and-space
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