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God did not create Heaven, if by that you mean the throne of God.
Gen 1:1**In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Also in Isaiah Scripture says heaven is his throne and earth his footstool and I believe both were created because that is what Genesis says
Isa 66:1**Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
But for any king their own house is not the throne room
Gen 1:1**In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Also in Isaiah Scripture says heaven is his throne and earth his footstool and I believe both were created because that is what Genesis says
Isa 66:1**Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
But for any king their own house is not the throne room
God created the heavens (first and second heavens, that is), but God has always existed in the third Heaven, where His throne is located.
Scripture says God is “from everlasting to everlasting.” We can rightfully assume that God’s dwelling place was eternal and not created. The first two heavens will pass away (2 Pet. 3:10) however the third heaven is eternal.
Heaven was located in the upper atmosphere until humans invented airplanes. Then, for some reason, Heaven had to be relocated to outer space somewhere. I'm not sure if there's a connection between the invention of aircraft and the relocation of Heaven. I suspect there is.
Heaven was located in the upper atmosphere until humans invented airplanes. Then, for some reason, Heaven had to be relocated to outer space somewhere. I'm not sure if there's a connection between the invention of aircraft and the relocation of Heaven. I suspect there is.
I realize you are being facetious, but the discovery of BECs (Bose-Einstein Condensates) and their survivability in the cold of outer space actually provides support for the Heavens being in outer space, IMO.
I realize you are being facetious, but the discovery of BECs (Bose-Einstein Condensates) and their survivability in the cold of outer space actually provides support for the Heavens being in outer space, IMO.
I’ve got some Bose-Einstein Condensates dripping from my air conditioner right now. It’s a humid night.
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by Michael Way
My own opinion is that heaven, as well as all other aspects of the spiritual realm, are interdimensional. They all exist in the same space as our physical world but on a different plane of existence. You can wave your hand through the spiritual realm but because it's on a different plane of existence you never know that you are doing it.
My belief as well.
I also believe that there is not just one spiritual realm but many. People (and animals) who are alive and dead but are in different realms can exist in the exact same spot as one another. There could be a million souls, all in different realms, occupying the very same spot that we are sitting or standing on. (it could be why there are some people who can feel the presence of someone who had been in their life but had recently died?)
Ephesians 6:12
New King James Version
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of [a]the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...venly%20places.
The physical earth and the spiritual realms are divided, and the spiritual realms are divided from one each other.
Exodus 26:33
King James Version
33 And thou shalt hang up the vail under the taches, that thou mayest bring in thither within the vail the ark of the testimony: and the vail shall divide unto you between the holy place and the most holy. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...33&version=KJV
Matthew 27:51-66
New King James Version
51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...ed%20to%20many.
I don't know how God decides which soul goes into which realm. That might be a topic for another thread?
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Originally Posted by Katzpur
I'm not sure, but I believe that Jesus was talking about the 1000-year period of time that He would personally rule on earth. I don't believe He was talking about the place we will spend eternity. For starters, the billions of people who have ever lived on earth certainly wouldn't all fit on this tiny planet.
As to where I believe Heaven actually is, (since I believe it's a real place), I'd say it's far, far away and leave it at that.
What is posted above could be how everyone would fit on this tiny planet?
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