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I am a Christian but I am not BORN-AGAIN, (The WORD BORN-AGAIN)
1 Cor. 15:51-54 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
{they're going to be people that are in total darkness, not being aware of their surroundings, these words (the dead shall be raised,) this means to be dead and being in our {mortal bodies}, so the body that is death!
will be re-born to a new creation} (Born Again)
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
{ the trumpet shall sound,}{these are the Children of God sounding the alarm}
{The last trumpet is the last warning IS GET INTO Christ as in Noah's Ark}
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
(The word corruptible, because our flesh is not perfect and will make incorruption, meaning that he will make us into a new creature. A body that is perfect in every way!)
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, and then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
{The word here, immortality, God will give "some of us"? everlasting life.}
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
To be born of water is to be born by the Holy Spirit. (Water, meeting purity or Holy. Water is the Holy Spirit), by the action of God through the Holy Spirit.
John 3: Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit,he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:8,That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.{Thenew creation!}
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be RE-Born again.
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The wind bloweth where it listeth, and you hear the sound thereof, but you know not whether it cometh or goeth. So is every man that is Born of the Spirit.
To which Nicodemus replied: How can these things be?
To which Jesus replied: Art though a Master and knoweth not these things?
This is the explanation of a Translated/Transfigured person. The same process that Enoch, Elijah, Moses, Jesus, John, James and a few other Apostles and their converts have gone through.
It is recieving the divine Nature as spoken of by Peter.
After Jesus was Translated he was able to appear and disappear as needed, so that the Jews would not kill Him before His time.
As well the Apostles were able to move from place to place at the speed of Spirit. The baptism of the Eunich is one example.
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[quote=freedom;7293417]The wind bloweth where it listeth, and you hear the sound thereof, but you know not whether it cometh or goeth. So is every man that is Born of the Spirit.
To which Nicodemus replied: How can these things be?
To which Jesus replied: Art though a Master and knoweth not these things?
This is the explanation of a Translated/Transfigured person. The same process that Enoch, Elijah, Moses, Jesus, John, James and a few other Apostles and their converts have gone through.
It is recieving the divine Nature as spoken of by Peter.
After Jesus was Translated he was able to appear and disappear as needed, so that the Jews would not kill Him before His time.
As well the Apostles were able to move from place to place at the speed of Spirit. The baptism of the Eunich is one example.
Hello and greetings to you yes you are right the translation is transfiguration as we read in these verses, or Jesus takes his disciples and show them this new birth, this is the future is coming soon, but is only of those who are chosen to be the first fruits. In another verse Jesus also speaks about these first fruits, he is the first fruit of this new creation!
The transfiguration of Christ
Matthew17:1-13 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Hello and greetings to you
yes you are right the translation is transfiguration as we read in these verses, or Jesus takes his disciples and show them this new birth, this is the future is coming soon, but is only of those who are chosen to be the first fruits. In another verse Jesus also speaks about these first fruits, he is the first fruit of this new creation!
Dear TheWordIsOne...could you please explain this a little further? What is your understanding of this? Thank you! Love
Hello and greetings to you yes you are right the translation is transfiguration as we read in these verses, or Jesus takes his disciples and show them this new birth, this is the future is coming soon, but is only of those who are chosen to be the first fruits. In another verse Jesus also speaks about these first fruits, he is the first fruit of this new creation!
Dear TheWordIsOne...could you please explain this a little further? What is your understanding of this? Thank you! Love
Hi Verna, maybe this can help, as I understand it. The first begotten of the dead. The firstborn, first fruits.
Psalms. 116:15Precious in the sigh of the LORD is the death of his saints.
Hebrew - word, Khaw - seed, meaning of word saint. Strong #no. 2623 also Greek - word strong # no. 40; hag - ee - os; meaning of word (saint,) blameless or religious, holy or Holy one, holy thing. Hagios fundamentally signifies separated and hence, in scripture in its moral and spiritual significance, separate from sin and therefore consecrated to God, sacred. (1) It is predicted of God (as absolutely “Holy One,” in His purity, Majesty and glory); (1a) of the Father (Lk. 1:49, Jn 17:11, Pet. 1:15), 1B) of the Son
(Lk. 1:35,
Acts 3:14, 4:27), and (1c) of the Spirit (Mt. 1:18, II Tim. 1:14). (2) It is used of men and things in so far as they are devoted to God. (2a) Indeed the quality, as attributed to God is often presented in a way which involves divine demands upon the conduct of believers who are called hagioi, “Saints,” “Sanctified,” or “holy” ones.(3) This sainthood is not an attainment. (3a) It is a state into which God in grace calls men; yet (3b) Believer are called to sanctify themselves, (3b1) Consistently with their calling (II Tim. 1:9), (3b2) Cleaning themselves from all defilement, (3b3) forsaking sin, (3b4) living a holy manner of life
(I Pet. 1:15, II Pet. 3:11), and (3b5) experiencing fellowship with God in His holiness. (4) The Saints are thus figuratively spoken of as a holy temple (4a)
I Corn. 3:17, a local church; (4b) Eph. 2:21. The whole church, (5) Hagios expresses something more and higher than sacred, outwardly associated with God; something more than worthy, honorable; something more than pure, free from defilement. Hagios is more comprehensive. It is characteristically godlikeness. (6) the adjective is used (6a) of the outer part of the tabernacle (Heb. 9:2“Sanctuary”=“the holy place”), (6b) of the inner sanctuary
(Heb. 9:3, “Holiest of all”=“the holy of holies”. (6c) of the city of Jerusalem
(Rev. 11:2) (6d) its temple (Acts 6:13) (6e) of the faith (Jude 20) (6f) of the greetings of saints (I Corn. 16:20) (6g) of angels (Mk. 8:38) (6h) of apostles and prophets (Eph. 3:5) (6I) of the future heavenly Jerusalem
(Rev. 21:2,10, 22:19). Syn.:38, 41, 42, 3741, 3742, 3743.
The Harvest and the fishers of men and the dew from heaven.
This study here for I have an individual versus that has to do with harvesting these first fruits; Lord says that the people have no shepherd. The 12 apostles at day of Pentecost about 3000 were saved. Because today they are so many people in the world, the Lord says pray to the father, so that he may send fore more laborers to harvest wheat,Wheat as you know meaning the children of God. As I understand. and also what God says he will set up his new kingdom.
Matthew 9:35-38And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.
Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Eph. 4:4-6 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ; From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. Eph. 4:15-16 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col. 1:18 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. II Cor. 5:17 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. I Cor. 12:27 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth all in all. Eph. 1:22, 23Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne and the counsel of peace shall be between them both. And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD, and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God. Zech. 6:13, 15 And ye are complete in him which is the head of all principality and power. Col.2: 10 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. I Cor. 11: 3 And he is head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead: that in all things he might have preeminence. Col. 1: 19 And I appoint unto you a kingdom and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Luke 22: 29, 30 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and Godly fear: for our God is a consuming fire. Heb. 12: 28-29 Thy throne O God is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. PS. 45: 6 But unto the son he saith, thy throne O God is for ever and ever; a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Heb. 1: 8 Behold a king shall reign in righteousness and princes shall rule in judgment. Isa. 32: 1 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from river unto the ends of the earth. PS.72: 8 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. Zech. 14: 9 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. Dan. 2: 44 And there was given him dominion and glory, and a kingdom that all people, nation, and languages should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Dan. 7: 14 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Luke 1: 33 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
(PS. 2:6) How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings that publisheth peace, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, thy God reigneth ! Isa. 52: 7 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion: shout O daughter of Jerusalem: behold thy king cometh unto thee: he is just and having salvation: lowly and riding upon an ass and upon a colt the fool of an ass. Zech. 9:9Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Harvest the wheat.
Matthew 13: 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
II Corinthians 5:18-20 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; to wit, that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not inputting their trespasses unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us; we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
Hebrew - word, (Maw - veth),the meaning of this word, (Death)
Strong # No 4194
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Transfiguration
