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I think part of the answer to the original question goes back to the definition of "propitiation", used in Romans 3:25, when it says, "whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood" (NKJV). Propitiation is different than atonement. Atonement carries the definition and sense of cleansing (Lev. 17:11 speaks of the atonement by blood); propitiation has the sense of appeasement of wrath (in the original Greek), and it was a word even used by pagans to denote appeasing the wrath of false deities through some form of sacrifice.
As for what the wrath of God is, I'm not sure that this is something that we have to know and understand. However, I feel that part of it, and really the culmination and ultimate wrath of God is separation from Him. Eternity for those without Christ as their Savior will be an eternity separated from God. When Jesus on the cross proclaims "My God, my God why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46, as well as Mark 15) the word "forsaken" is really the idea of leaving someone behind (being separated from them), so that Jesus felt the weight of God's wrath in the Father being separate from Him. How long this separation lasted, we don't know. Was it when Jesus said, "It is finished"? Was it when He rose again 3 days after being buried? Was it when He ascended at the beginning of Acts? We don't know for sure, but there was some separation there, and that is (in my opinion from what I understand in the Bible) the ultimate culmination of God's wrath, separation from Him (spiritual death).
Not sure if this answers your question, but hope it helps somewhat...
I think part of the answer to the original question goes back to the definition of "propitiation", used in Romans 3:25, when it says, "whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood" (NKJV). Propitiation is different than atonement. Atonement carries the definition and sense of cleansing (Lev. 17:11 speaks of the atonement by blood); propitiation has the sense of appeasement of wrath (in the original Greek), and it was a word even used by pagans to denote appeasing the wrath of false deities through some form of sacrifice.
As for what the wrath of God is, I'm not sure that this is something that we have to know and understand. However, I feel that part of it, and really the culmination and ultimate wrath of God is separation from Him. Eternity for those without Christ as their Savior will be an eternity separated from God. When Jesus on the cross proclaims "My God, my God why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46, as well as Mark 15) the word "forsaken" is really the idea of leaving someone behind (being separated from them), so that Jesus felt the weight of God's wrath in the Father being separate from Him. How long this separation lasted, we don't know. Was it when Jesus said, "It is finished"? Was it when He rose again 3 days after being buried? Was it when He ascended at the beginning of Acts? We don't know for sure, but there was some separation there, and that is (in my opinion from what I understand in the Bible) the ultimate culmination of God's wrath, separation from Him (spiritual death).
Not sure if this answers your question, but hope it helps somewhat...
My first reply in a few years and this I agree with completely!!!
I think part of the answer to the original question goes back to the definition of "propitiation", used in Romans 3:25, when it says, "whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood" (NKJV). Propitiation is different than atonement. Atonement carries the definition and sense of cleansing (Lev. 17:11 speaks of the atonement by blood); propitiation has the sense of appeasement of wrath (in the original Greek), and it was a word even used by pagans to denote appeasing the wrath of false deities through some form of sacrifice.
As for what the wrath of God is, I'm not sure that this is something that we have to know and understand. However, I feel that part of it, and really the culmination and ultimate wrath of God is separation from Him. Eternity for those without Christ as their Savior will be an eternity separated from God. When Jesus on the cross proclaims "My God, my God why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46, as well as Mark 15) the word "forsaken" is really the idea of leaving someone behind (being separated from them), so that Jesus felt the weight of God's wrath in the Father being separate from Him. How long this separation lasted, we don't know. Was it when Jesus said, "It is finished"? Was it when He rose again 3 days after being buried? Was it when He ascended at the beginning of Acts? We don't know for sure, but there was some separation there, and that is (in my opinion from what I understand in the Bible) the ultimate culmination of God's wrath, separation from Him (spiritual death).
Not sure if this answers your question, but hope it helps somewhat...
There is no separation; and Christ Jesus was never forsaken.
Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus bore God the Father's wrath, in our stead? Now I understand blood atonement, so let this discussion not be about this.
But it was MEN who beat and killed the Messiah, not God the Father of us all. Show me please using the Word where it says that Father released His Wrath upon His begotten Son, our Savior, and King.
You climb up and say,'' drive the nails.''
You are the sacrifice, the sacrifice is cut in half and separated, and God walks between the halves.
Nothing has happened unless two die.
You die daily.
Or you don't.
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