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(Wow, turns out I didnt have a hard time answering that question at all )
trying to get a yes or no answer from most universalist is like pulling teeth and proves my point that their doctrine is not truth. How can you have truth if one can't give a yes or no. Fundie, do you like blue? I like blue if it is the blue from the sky.
And trying to get Fundy to show where I deconstructed his question is like pulling teeth and shows me something about him. Making this statement about what I've done is not true.
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I tire of some people here going on and on about that they may have or may have not done on a forum 4 or more pages back in the topic history.
No one is forced to read the thread, alanMostad. Thanks and God bless.
And trying to get Fundy to show where I deconstructed his question is like pulling teeth and shows me something about him. God bless.
You deconstructed by saying there are Christians more loving by believing in a scripture they mistranslated in the bible, as if these Christians believe it and accept it because it is in the bible ONLY; that we are more loving but out of ignorance. You totally changed the spirit of the question.
so I asked again can a Christian to be more loving than you and also accept that God is just in creating an eternal hell?
God did not create an "eternal hell"! He most certainly did not!
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To say on the authority of the Bible that God does a thing no honourable man would do, is to lie against God; to say that it is therefore right, is to lie against the very spirit of God. To uphold a lie for God's sake is to be against God, not for him. God cannot be lied for. He is the truth. The truth alone is on his side. While his child could not see the rectitude of a thing, he would infinitely rather, even if the thing were right, have him say, God could not do that thing, than have him believe that he did it. If the man were sure God did it, the thing he ought to say would be, 'Then there must be something about it I do not know, which if I did know, I should see the thing quite differently.' But where an evil thing is invented to explain and account for a good thing, and a lover of God is called upon to believe the invention or be cast out, he needs not mind being cast out, for it is into the company of Jesus. Where there is no ground to believe that God does a thing except that men who would explain God have believed and taught it, he is not a true man who accepts men against his own conscience of God. I acknowledge no authority calling upon me to believe a thing of God, which I could not be a man and believe right in my fellow-man. I will accept no explanation of any way of God which explanation involves what I should scorn as false and unfair in a man. If you say, That may be right of God to do which it would not be right of man to do, I answer, Yes, because the relation of the maker to his creatures is very different from the relation of one of those creatures to another, and he has therefore duties toward his creatures requiring of him what no man would have the right to do to his fellow-man; but he can have no duty that is not both just and merciful. More is required of the maker, by his own act of creation, than can be required of men. More and higher justice and righteousness is required of him by himself, the Truth;--greater nobleness, more penetrating sympathy; and nothing but what, if an honest man understood it, he would say was right. -George MacDonald-
You deconstructed by saying there are Christians more loving by believing in a scripture they mistranslated in the bible, as if these people believe it and accept it because it is in the bible ONLY; that we are more loving out of ignorance. You totally changed the spirit of the question.
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I am not undestanding this what you are asking, evidently.
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You make an absolute statement that we follow men who "claimed" to be Christian and rejoiced in watch God torment people yet somehow.....
Do you believe Christians more loving than you could believe in the doctrine of an eternal hell?
(Post #28)
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I believe that they can, due to what they may see in the incorrect translations of some scriptures, but as you shared, many do not want to believe it or accept it. Many are tormented and are in fear.
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I personally do not understand nor like the eternal hell doctrine but who am I to question or judge God because I see it in scripture and I trust God is good and does everything for my good and His glory and if I am like this then there are many like me who do not comprehend the concept of an eternal hell either and would want it struck and never to be uttered again from our holy, loving letter; the bible.
Then you stated that this was not the question in the very next post #29 (,NO, that is not the question. (LOL) Do you believe that Christians more loving than you can also believe that God is just for creating an eternal hell?)
when this was the question in post # 28. Did you look at post #28. I know that my eyesight is bad, but not that bad!!
I believe that people who are more loving than me, can believe anything, Fundy. People can believe anything. If they believe that God is just for creating eternal hell, then they believe it. God bless.
Last edited by ShanaBrown; 06-07-2009 at 11:31 AM..
I give up! just want a yes or no, it's like talking to politicians
Sure you want a yes or no. I have a few questions for you that only require a yes or no. Would you like to participate?
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Making this statement about what I've done is not true. 
just want a yes or no, it's like talking to politicians
