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Old 06-08-2009, 07:38 AM
 
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I read this yesterday, and thought it warranted it's own post.

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I believe I am because of my quest for the truth which is His gospel and my belief He is the Christ, who died for my sins, rose from the dead, saved by grace alone through faith alone. When you believe that you are the elect.
So if I go on a journey of truth, believe that Jesus was the Anointed, died for the sins of mankind, was ressurected into Glory, I am saved by His Grace, alone? But not only am I saved, but now I am the elect? Am I reading this right?
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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I read this yesterday, and thought it warranted it's own post.



So if I go on a journey of truth, believe that Jesus was the Anointed, died for the sins of mankind, was ressurected into Glory, I am saved by His Grace, alone? But not only am I saved, but now I am the elect? Am I reading this right?
Greek Lexicon: elect
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AV-elect 16, chosen 7; 23

1) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God,
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called "chosen or elect" of God
1a2) the Messiah in called "elect", as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians
I believe that in the context of the post you referenced, saved and elect are one in the same.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:14 AM
 
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I read this yesterday, and thought it warranted it's own post.



So if I go on a journey of truth, believe that Jesus was the Anointed, died for the sins of mankind, was ressurected into Glory, I am saved by His Grace, alone? But not only am I saved, but now I am the elect? Am I reading this right?
yup.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:16 AM
 
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I read this yesterday, and thought it warranted it's own post.



So if I go on a journey of truth, believe that Jesus was the Anointed, died for the sins of mankind, was ressurected into Glory, I am saved by His Grace, alone? But not only am I saved, but now I am the elect? Am I reading this right?
No one can believe Christ died for their sins if they are not chosen to believe first. Believing that is proof of your salvation.

Phi 1:28 and not being startled by those who are opposing in anything, which is to them a proof of destruction, yet [proof] of your salvation, and this from God,
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Quest for truth is one of the most absurd things i have read on this Forum.

Sounds like something from Monty Pythons Holy Grail.


Infact i would say the only one who is on some sort of quest is God Himself , just like the way He sought after Paul on the road to Damascus ,i believe He is on a quest after us to knock us off our religious high horses.


8But what does it say? The Word (God's message in Christ) is near you, on your lips and in your heart; that is, the Word (the message, the basis and object) of faith which we preach.

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Old 06-08-2009, 11:13 AM
 
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The ELECT is the true Church of God. Jesus said this group is only a small flock... I guess that rules out many traditional churches calling themselves Christians. Several times the Bible describes them as those who keep the Commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ. Keeping the 10 Commandments includes the Sabbath, the 7 Feast of the Lord, not making graven images of God, and the rest of the 10. Having the Testimony of JC means accepting him as your personal Lord and Savior.
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