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Though Jesus was God he took the form of a mere human person and came into this world (Philippians 2:7) to proclaim good news to the poor, liberty to the captives, recovery of sight to the blind and to set at free those who are oppressed (Luke 4:18). The world however did not recognize him (John 1:10). He was therefore wounded for our transgressions, was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth (Isaiah 53: 5 &7). Furthermore, during his suffering and death he forgave his persecutors (Luke 23:34); and was concerned about the suffering they would bring upon themselves by their sins rather than his own suffering (Luke 23:28). Through his chastisement he healed us and set us free of sin; so that we too can love one another as he has loved us (John 13:34-35), quietly bear each other’s burdens, forgive without any limit (Matt. 18:22) and bind each other’s wounds. Christianity therefore is not about our rights, our feelings or our life. It is about sacrifice, undying fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness.
Though Jesus was God he took the form of a mere human person and came into this world (Philippians 2:7) to proclaim good news to the poor, liberty to the captives, recovery of sight to the blind and to set at free those who are oppressed (Luke 4:18). The world however did not recognize him (John 1:10). He was therefore wounded for our transgressions, was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth (Isaiah 53: 5 &7). Furthermore, during his suffering and death he forgave his persecutors (Luke 23:34); and was concerned about the suffering they would bring upon themselves by their sins rather than his own suffering (Luke 23:28). Through his chastisement he healed us and set us free of sin; so that we too can love one another as he has loved us (John 13:34-35), quietly bear each other’s burdens, forgive without any limit (Matt. 18:22) and bind each other’s wounds. Christianity therefore is not about our rights, our feelings or our life. It is about sacrifice, undying fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness.
You seemed to be right on target ....until the very end, when suddenly you seemed to switch your focus from the all sufficient work of Christ ... to "our own" (?) sacrifice, undying fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness.
Yes, those are 'fruits of the Holy Spirit' that should be evident in one who is 'born again - by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ.' But, none of those noble human attributes by themselves ... or even collectively, are the basis of Christianity.
You seemed to be right on target ....until the very end, when suddenly you seemed to switch your focus from the all sufficient work of Christ ... to "our own" (?) sacrifice, undying fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness.
Yes, those are 'fruits of the Holy Spirit' that should be evident in one who is 'born again - by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ.' But, none of those noble human attributes by themselves ... or even collectively, are the basis of Christianity.
Did one of us miss something here?
If they are not . . . Christianity is a waste. If it does not require "love of God and each other" daily and repenting when we don't . . . it is a hollow and pointless religion.
You seemed to be right on target ....until the very end, when suddenly you seemed to switch your focus from the all sufficient work of Christ ... to "our own" (?) sacrifice, undying fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness.
I thought he was right on target right up through the end. Having faith in Christ is more than saying, "He did it all; I'm off the hook as long as I believe." I see having faith in Christ as being integrally related to being faithful to Christ. To be a good Christian does involve sacrifice, fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness. It's walking the walk and not just talking the talk.
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Yes, those are 'fruits of the Holy Spirit' that should be evident in one who is 'born again - by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ.' But, none of those noble human attributes by themselves ... or even collectively, are the basis of Christianity.
I disagree. Being a Christian means being a follower of Jesus Christ. Yes, those "fruits of the Spirit" should be evident in all believers. Sadly, they don't appear to be.
Though Jesus was God he took the form of a mere human person and came into this world (Philippians 2:7) to proclaim good news to the poor, liberty to the captives, recovery of sight to the blind and to set at free those who are oppressed (Luke 4:18). The world however did not recognize him (John 1:10). He was therefore wounded for our transgressions, was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth (Isaiah 53: 5 &7). Furthermore, during his suffering and death he forgave his persecutors (Luke 23:34); and was concerned about the suffering they would bring upon themselves by their sins rather than his own suffering (Luke 23:28). Through his chastisement he healed us and set us free of sin; so that we too can love one another as he has loved us (John 13:34-35), quietly bear each other’s burdens, forgive without any limit (Matt. 18:22) and bind each other’s wounds. Christianity therefore is not about our rights, our feelings or our life. It is about sacrifice, undying fidelity, humility, obedience and forgiveness.
'he took the form of a mere human person' (?)
'Being In The Form Of God' - Phil.2:6
'taking the form of a servant and becoming like men;
in what appertained to Him as a man He humbled Himself' - Phil.2:8 [Greek to English]
CONTEXT: Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took on him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: …
He was "in the form of God" and then "took the form of a mere mortal."
Jesus did tell of "True Worshipers'
'True Worshiper Will Worship The Father
IN Spirit and IN Truth
For The Father Is Seeking Such To Worship Him." - John 4:23
CONTEXT: Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took on him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: …
He was "in the form of God" and then "took the form of a mere mortal."
CONTEXT: Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But made himself of no reputation, and took on him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: …
He was "in the form of God" and then "took the form of a mere mortal."
Does God have a FORM? God is a Spirit. So what does it mean exactly where it says "Christ Jesus, who, being in the FORM of God...." I really don't know what that means.
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