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Can a rich Church or man get into heaven? Matthew 19:23
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 19:21
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and followme.
Genesis 13:2
And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold.
Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
There seems to be a theme throughout scripture that says that wealth is not a good thing yet the Church amasses wealth for it’s own sake and glorification.
Can a Church that does not practice what it preaches lead us to heaven or is wealth actually a good thing.
What comes to mind is Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.
In selecting the cup of Christ, the proper cup was the poor man’s cup. In contrast, if asked to select the cup of the Church, he would have selected the riches cup.
One has to wonder if the Church is right or if Jesus was.
Many say they have faith in Jesus but few follow His line of thought when their wealth is in question.
Would God reject our rich Church?
Is our Church imperfect because of it’s wealth?
Will God reject the rich man?
Your thoughts?
well to be fair, the church consists of many rich men (not necessarily its founding members), very much like any other such body.
now, how many camels (original word wrongly translated, supposed to have been "rope") must first be pressed through the eye of a needle (attention; occupation?)...?
Can a rich Church or man get into heaven? Matthew 19:23
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 19:21
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and followme.
Genesis 13:2
And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold.
Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
There seems to be a theme throughout scripture that says that wealth is not a good thing yet the Church amasses wealth for it’s own sake and glorification.
Can a Church that does not practice what it preaches lead us to heaven or is wealth actually a good thing.
What comes to mind is Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.
In selecting the cup of Christ, the proper cup was the poor man’s cup. In contrast, if asked to select the cup of the Church, he would have selected the riches cup.
One has to wonder if the Church is right or if Jesus was.
Many say they have faith in Jesus but few follow His line of thought when their wealth is in question.
Would God reject our rich Church?
Is our Church imperfect because of it’s wealth?
Will God reject the rich man?
Your thoughts?
Regards
DL
There is nothing wrong with wealth. It is when your wealth owns you and you become rich in your own eyes.
As you mentioned above Abraham was rich, but his riches did not own him. It is written that Abraham tithed ten percent of all he owned to Melchizedek, the priest in Salem.
The Church belongs to God so it does not matter how much money it has. The steward over the money must be careful, because they will be accountable for what they do with that money.
I am very careful with the churches money when I have to make purchases, I buy only what is needed and take advantage of sales if I can.
God will not reject his Church. If judgement is required, God will judge his Church first.
The rich man who does not accept what Jesus did on the cross, is just like any other sinner and will go to hell. Jesus commanded the rich man in the bible to give his wealth away as a personal commandment to him. The man would not and rejected Jesus' word.
What has Jesus said to you (apart from his word the bible) and will you obey it?
I am going to heaven for sure with all my fat paycheques, hot wife, kids, my future Ferrari and my brooks brothers suits
for sure, you just make sure you are seen with the pope, as a four-times divorced politician, or like sophia l. at benedict's birthday spectacle, or like a certain mariae gloria securing dynasties and worldly benefits through religious benefice, all very discreet like divorces from less-marketable spouses...
cool, indeed. on sundays, the communal dignitaries would be escorted to the first pew .... etc.
holiness has ceased to be wholesome long ago (in europe at least). yet dismissing it into ridicule altogether should not have made secularism more becoming, as can be observed, even by blind camels ....
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for sure, you just make sure you are seen with the pope, as a four-times divorced politician, or like sophia l. at benedict's birthday spectacle, or like a certain mariae gloria securing dynasties and worldly benefits through religious benefice, all very discreet like divorces from less-marketable spouses...
I'm not gonna become Silvio Berlusconi or Gerhard Schroeder
I'm not gonna become Silvio Berlusconi or Gerhard Schroeder
for correctness' sake: it wasn't schroeder himself (who would have had no need to dig out a professing catholic for one reason or another at a certain moment in time).
It's always good to ask questions. And in your question you assume that:
1. After death you are going in the hello or paradise
2. Bible may explain it
Sorry to disappoint you, but I may give you unusual answers:
1. Why do you think that you are going somewhere?
2. Because Bible sad this?
3. Bible may be not true.
4. God which is proven by Bible, may also not exists.
So if you ask questions, please ask deeper: Is it true that was written in the Bible (keep in mind that it contradict itself and science big time)?
Is it true that Hell, Paradise, and God(s) exists (there are not proofs of God's existence) except Bible?
I hope you will be able to ask those questions.
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