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Old 07-21-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: USA
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Talk about building strawmans. No you don't need a doctorate to read scripture but you yourself can not fully understand EVERY scripture since there are scriptures that even the greatest theologians can't fully understand so who are you?

I go back to when the bible said, that Jesus was going to save His people from their sin. He was talking about only Jews or carpenters right?!!!!!!!! afterall they are His people
Well if the "greatest theologian cannot fully understand scripture," what are you going to do, then?

So you are saying God gave us scripture to live by, but it's something we cannot understand? That makes no sense.

If you do not understand scripture, or there is supposedly no one who can; what would be the point of it?

The Lord said to come unto Him like a child. I, personally, would trust a child's interpretation of the Bible before some of these high-falutin', supposedly learned theologians you are apparently dependent upon....

I trust my soul to no man, except myself and my OWN reading of the Bible, my OWN relationship with the Lord.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: NC
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As a Christian Universalist I agree with you that "those that are NOT are NOT HIS." During the eons are age times there are many outside and many cast out of the kingdom. But this is not the final goal God has for all those which presently are NOT HIS. See 1 Timothy 2:4-6, 4:10, Romans 5:18,19, 1 Corinthians 15:22-28, Colossians 1:20, Ephesians 1:9 to name a few. Eventually all will be His. For "all is out of Him, through Him and FOR HIM."
Amen. Jesus has been made heir of all. (Hebrews 1) God bless.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: The A
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Belove57, I can say I never knew you too
Dont compare yourself with God, thats your first big mistake..
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: UPSTATE SC
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But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

Amen, presumptuous and selfwilled are those proclaiming that Jesus christ died to save all of mankind to include the devils seed..when scripture is absolutely clear on those specifically He died for..His church, His people, His sheep...His Israel !
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. . . Does scripture tell us who His Church, His people, His Sheep are?

You mentioned that you were one of the elect. How does one know who are the elect?

Do any of the elect die, not knowing they are the elect?

Do all elect know that they are elect?

Can an elect distinguish another elect or non-elect???
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:13 PM
 
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Does scripture tell us who His Church, His people, His Sheep are?
Those believing the Truth of the Gospel..
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:27 AM
 
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I know there is a cultic group out of Brensen MO called shepards chapel.

Thier false doctrines are very similar to yours, B-57. Any kin to that bunch?
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:39 AM
 
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I know there is a cultic group out of Brensen MO called shepards chapel.

Thier false doctrines are very similar to yours, B-57. Any kin to that bunch?
Never heard of them ..and i preach the Truth which you reject..
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:19 AM
 
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It's stated pretty clearly who is going, and who is NOT. There is NO such thing as "everybody on board" there WILL be those excluded from the kingdom no mistake about it.

[SIZE=1]14“Blessed are those doing His commandments, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city. 15“But outside are the dogs and those who enchant with drugs, and those who *****, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and all who love and do falsehood.o [/SIZE]
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:21 AM
 
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It's stated pretty clearly who is going, and who is NOT. There is NO such thing as "everybody on board" there WILL be those excluded from the kingdom no mistake about it.

[SIZE=1]14“Blessed are those doing His commandments, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city. 15“But outside are the dogs and those who enchant with drugs, and those who *****, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and all who love and do falsehood.o [/SIZE]
Yes there will be, and its a sin against God to preach otherwise..

1 tim 6:

3If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;


4He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Its clear The Lord Jesus taught that not all are going into the Kingdom..So those who teach otherwise are proud, knowing nothing..
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