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Old 09-05-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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I know a lady that used to attend worship service at our assembly and is now going to a Messianic Jewish assembly and a few that went with her are sorely confused , she still attends our bible study occasionaly, but when she does she sows seeds of doubt and discord, and claim that eatingh certain things are contrary to the truth, and believe in the Levitical Law word for word.
Could someone that is of the Messianic persuasion, shed some light on some of these basic topics, and the observance of Sabbath and it's relation to Christianity? and those that have converted from traditional Christianity .
Thanks In Advance
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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I also will not abandon this thread, I will be in and out temporarily until I can gt the DSL squared away
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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I am familiar with Messianic Judaism. I love it! Messianic perspectives can really really add to one's understanding of the old Testament. I heard an interesting perspective on prophecy in relation to 9/11 yesterday from Jonathan Kohn on You Tube, and I'll share it with you if you're interested. It is so cool!

It sounds to me like this lady might be hooked up with a synagogue that is unbalanced toward legalistic concepts, at least in a few areas. As far as the Levitical Law goes, that merits some discussion and parsing, I think. About the Sabbath? Well, it is on Saturday after all! The gentile calendar even shows that Saturday is the last day of the Week. But, I don't feel that those who worship on Sunday are in the wrong.

The problem is, none of us can be sure when Saturday really is, anymore. Look at it logically. How do we know that the anniversary of the original day of rest doesn't fall on our Wednesday now? Or Friday? We have a 14.28 percent chance that we've got the right day! The next time a 7th Day Adventist picks on you, just ask him if he really knows when Saturday is for sure.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:29 PM
 
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http://www.biblicalholidays.com/Excerpts/excerpts.htm (broken link)

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Old 09-05-2009, 05:34 PM
 
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I am familiar with Messianic Judaism. I love it! Messianic perspectives can really really add to one's understanding of the old Testament. I heard an interesting perspective on prophecy in relation to 9/11 yesterday from Jonathan Kohn on You Tube, and I'll share it with you if you're interested. It is so cool!

It sounds to me like this lady might be hooked up with a synagogue that is unbalanced toward legalistic concepts, at least in a few areas. As far as the Levitical Law goes, that merits some discussion and parsing, I think. About the Sabbath? Well, it is on Saturday after all! The gentile calendar even shows that Saturday is the last day of the Week. But, I don't feel that those who worship on Sunday are in the wrong.

The problem is, none of us can be sure when Saturday really is, anymore. Look at it logically. How do we know that the anniversary of the original day of rest doesn't fall on our Wednesday now? Or Friday? We have a 14.28 percent chance that we've got the right day! The next time a 7th Day Adventist picks on you, just ask him if he really knows when Saturday is for sure.
Well, we can be certain that Jesus knew which was the right day - he kept the seventh day holy and the sequence of days has never changed from that time forward until now.

HK
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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I know a lady that used to attend worship service at our assembly and is now going to a Messianic Jewish assembly and a few that went with her are sorely confused , she still attends our bible study occasionaly, but when she does she sows seeds of doubt and discord, and claim that eatingh certain things are contrary to the truth, and believe in the Levitical Law word for word.
Could someone that is of the Messianic persuasion, shed some light on some of these basic topics, and the observance of Sabbath and it's relation to Christianity? and those that have converted from traditional Christianity .
Thanks In Advance

Hmmmm.... ask her about this verse:

Deu 25:11 "When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts,
Deu 25:12 then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.


HK
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:22 AM
 
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Hmmmm.... ask her about this verse:

Deu 25:11 "When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts,
Deu 25:12 then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.


HK

Wheeeee Doggies !! HK
Very good, awesome response ()
I will mention this the next time she tries to bug me about going to her place of worship
and I can't wait to hear the response
Hmmmmmmmmmmm .... very interesting
Thanks for your response
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:26 AM
 
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I am familiar with Messianic Judaism. I love it! Messianic perspectives can really really add to one's understanding of the old Testament. I heard an interesting perspective on prophecy in relation to 9/11 yesterday from Jonathan Kohn on You Tube, and I'll share it with you if you're interested. It is so cool!

It sounds to me like this lady might be hooked up with a synagogue that is unbalanced toward legalistic concepts, at least in a few areas. As far as the Levitical Law goes, that merits some discussion and parsing, I think. About the Sabbath? Well, it is on Saturday after all! The gentile calendar even shows that Saturday is the last day of the Week. But, I don't feel that those who worship on Sunday are in the wrong.

The problem is, none of us can be sure when Saturday really is, anymore. Look at it logically. How do we know that the anniversary of the original day of rest doesn't fall on our Wednesday now? Or Friday? We have a 14.28 percent chance that we've got the right day! The next time a 7th Day Adventist picks on you, just ask him if he really knows when Saturday is for sure.


Thanks for your input and for the You Tube link

God Bless You and a rep!!
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:51 AM
 
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I don't know... reading that one reply left me feeling sad... its as if your trying to find something just so you can say "IN YOUR FACE"..... why not try to understand and then go at it in love? Perhaps you'd even learn something if you tried to understand why she believes this way..... Is that such a bad thing?!
This is why even myself has such a hard time believing anything when those who call themselves such behave in such a way... This can't be what G-d would want you to do..... Maybe seek H-s advice. If this person is truly a friend, you should..... especially if you want to keep this friendship go about this carefully. Going to her or him in love works so much better than trying to one up them or twist things to make them feel bad..... I don't know.... thats just how I see this going and would advise another way.

but who am I..... You do as you feel lead.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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Biblical Holidays Jewish Feasts Reveal Messiah Yeshua -Jesus, Yom Kippur Dayes of Awe, Sukkoth (http://www.biblicalholidays.com/Excerpts/excerpts.htm - broken link)

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Many thanks to you
God Bless You
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