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View Poll Results: In the Scenario Laid Out Below Do The UR'er & the NA'er Walk Into Heaven Together?
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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You have a good heart, kat, and are willing to help people through their difficulties instead of "leaving them in their darkness" as "others" here have no qualms about doing. Again, thanks for your input.
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:11 PM
 
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I have struggled mightily to find a way to make understandable what is scientifically (and theologically) extremely complex. Analogy is the only vehicle available to do that . . . (and Jesus used "parables" many times for the same reason). ALL our reality is vibratory . . . the only comparable analogue that is easy to comprehend is music. Our consciousness is our vibratory "soul song" that has to join the "celestial orchestral symphony"(God consciousness). Prior to Jesus . . . all our "songs were in the wrong "key" (fear, anger, jealousy, greed, etc. . . . the negative human emotions). The correct "key" is LOVE. Jesus tuned His human consciousness to the perfect "key" of love (perfect resonance with God) and enabled humankind to join the "celestial orchestral symphony" in His section. The problem is that everyone that joins the section must have their "instrument"(mind) tuned to play in the same "key."

It doesn't matter who recommended you, or who you claim to have learned from, or . . . whatever . . . it simply must ACTUALLY be in the right "key" of love. It cannot be faked, it cannot be "conned," it cannot be changed at the last minute . . . it MUST be tuned to Jesus's "key of love." It doesn't need to be perfect . . . we don't need to be fully accomplished musicians . . .etc. . . . BUT we MUST be in the same "key." Those of us who tune our "instrument" to the right "key" while here on earth have a leg up . . . regardless where we are or what we believe. For others it may take longer and may be far more difficult and unpleasant to do . . . but it will happen . . . it is the only purpose for our existence.
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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I have struggled mightily to find a way to make understandable what is scientifically (and theologically) extremely complex. Analogy is the only vehicle available to do that . . . (and Jesus used "parables" many times for the same reason). ALL our reality is vibratory . . . the only comparable analogue that is easy to comprehend is music. Our consciousness is our vibratory "soul song" that has to join the "celestial orchestral symphony"(God consciousness). Prior to Jesus . . . all our "songs were in the wrong "key" (fear, anger, jealousy, greed, etc. . . . the negative human emotions). The correct "key" is LOVE. Jesus tuned His human consciousness to the perfect "key" of love (perfect resonance with God) and enabled humankind to join the "celestial orchestral symphony" in His section. The problem is that everyone that joins the section must have their "instrument"(mind) tuned to play in the same "key."

It doesn't matter who recommended you, or who you claim to have learned from, or . . . whatever . . . it simply must ACTUALLY be in the right "key" of love. It cannot be faked, it cannot be "conned," it cannot be changed at the last minute . . . it MUST be tuned to Jesus's "key of love." It doesn't need 1 petto be perfect . . . we don't need to be fully accomplished musicians . . .etc. . . . BUT we MUST be in the same "key." Those of us who tune our "instrument" to the right "key" while here on earth have a leg up . . . regardless where we are or what we believe. For others it may take longer and may be far more difficult and unpleasant to do . . . but it will happen . . . it is the only purpose for our existence.
Yes... the key to anything is love. The key to the song, the key to the door...

Some people are so focused on everyone else's key that they don't see their own. Love is a beautiful thing.

Two great verses:

Proverbs 10:12 "Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs."


1 peter 5:8 "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins."
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:49 PM
 
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I have struggled mightily to find a way to make understandable what is scientifically (and theologically) extremely complex. Analogy is the only vehicle available to do that . . . (and Jesus used "parables" many times for the same reason). ALL our reality is vibratory . . . the only comparable analogue that is easy to comprehend is music. Our consciousness is our vibratory "soul song" that has to join the "celestial orchestral symphony"(God consciousness). Prior to Jesus . . . all our "songs were in the wrong "key" (fear, anger, jealousy, greed, etc. . . . the negative human emotions). The correct "key" is LOVE. Jesus tuned His human consciousness to the perfect "key" of love (perfect resonance with God) and enabled humankind to join the "celestial orchestral symphony" in His section. The problem is that everyone that joins the section must have their "instrument"(mind) tuned to play in the same "key."

It doesn't matter who recommended you, or who you claim to have learned from, or . . . whatever . . . it simply must ACTUALLY be in the right "key" of love. It cannot be faked, it cannot be "conned," it cannot be changed at the last minute . . . it MUST be tuned to Jesus's "key of love." It doesn't need to be perfect . . . we don't need to be fully accomplished musicians . . .etc. . . . BUT we MUST be in the same "key." Those of us who tune our "instrument" to the right "key" while here on earth have a leg up . . . regardless where we are or what we believe. For others it may take longer and may be far more difficult and unpleasant to do . . . but it will happen . . . it is the only purpose for our existence.
Reminds me of the movie "August Rush", one of my favorites.
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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Few follow the narrow way [Matt 7:14] of giving up sin in this life [2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.]

Since few OBEY Jesus and are loving to all folks, even those who make them their 'enemies' , then few will be taken by Jesus at his return, as he says , he will take NO SINNERS :-

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Jesus will certainly save all sinners, but NOT at his return , Matthew states it in Matt 7:14 FEW find the way of obeying Christ as Lord and stopping sin, being wholly loving to all , in this life - Jesus states how few, just 144,000 , and Jude confirms [Jude 1:14] that as Enoch stated, there are only tens of thousands of saints out of the billions [12 billion +] of men who roamed this earth in this life... thus oly about one in 80,000 will be a sant and be taken by Jesus at his return ... people 'forget' that most of the scripture is specifically addressed to the saints, and think it applies to them as sinners, but it never did, never will , it says to whom it applies

Yet the many are saved later, once the kingdom is set up in the new earth , although the many go through destruction in the wrath of God and end of this earth... the spirit always returns to God and it is the spirit that animates a new body in resurrection if the old body has been destroyed :-

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

But many are later saved [Rev 7:9-10]

Thus it is that many ignore Matthew and Christ in pretending that many are the FEW , yet there is no way of stopping this false belief created by Satan, as Jesus himself said, all the world WILL worship Satan's version of religion [Rev 13:3-10] and only the few saints will not do so [and most die for not doing so]... how many are then truly ready to do what the scripture says saints must do, all those who follow Jesus must do, give up all sin , past sin forgiven by grace, and face death for sake of Jesus ... the first harder than the second i think, but why do so few take the words of Jesus and the saints seriously? ... simply because folks cannot give up sin, and that is why there are so few saints in this life... and God requires but a FEW as kings and priests in the kingdom ,so why make up lies to pretend that many can be first, God simply does not require everyone as kings and priests, who would they serve once the kingdom is set up ? ... foolish people, there can only be FEW kings and priests in the kingdom, God has chosen them Himself, named them from the beginning to show His power of prophecy, and you ignore Him and make up religion as sinners? If sinners lead sinners in religion then it is the blind leading the blind and that is what we see, religion led by sinners and insisting on belief in lies counter to te unity of all scriptures :-

Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Bible [or 'some sinners have learned how to read'] - Christian Forums
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