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Old 12-09-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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Jesus is both God and man....

empowered with the Holy Spirit to do the works of the Father...
Indwelled by the Father,,annointed,,yes. But still a man. Flesh. Sinless. Killed. Ressurected. The Lamb of WHO? GOD!

Jesus is NOT the Father, period. There is no getting around this fact. He was born around 2000 years ago. Not since eternity began. He was a baby, like all of us were babies. He bled, like all of us bleed. He cried, like all of us cried. In fact, in terms of being a man, He was like us in every way, except one. He never committed a sin, against man, or His Father. But He could have....
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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Hot,

Answer the question.

Was it Christ that purchased mankind with His own blood, or was it God?

This I ask you both HotinAZ and ChystyGrl?

Answer the question...a simple yes or no for Christ of God will suffice.
Christ cannot bleed. Christ is Spirit.

Jesus bled, and was tortured, and died for ALL of mankind.

If you say it was God who died, then we do not have much of a God now, do we?
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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No, it sounds like you think Jesus' name was Jesus Christ,,,which it wasn't. Christ is descriptive. Annointed. Yes, Jesus was annointed. Annointed with what, if He was ALREADY God?

So for you to use the term Christ and Jesus interchangably doesn't make sense for this topic, since you don't seem to know the difference.
In actuality the name should read Jesus the Christ....there is a huge and profound difference between Jesus the man and Jesus the Christ (the Messiah annointed with the spirit of God).

I would love to see an answer to the bolded question from anyone.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Christ cannot bleed. Christ is Spirit.

Jesus bled, and was tortured, and died for ALL of mankind.

If you say it was God who died, then we do not have much of a God now, do we?
If, as is espoused by some, that Jesus is God....and we all know God can't die.....what sacrifice was really made?
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Christ cannot bleed. Christ is Spirit.

Jesus bled, and was tortured, and died for ALL of mankind.

If you say it was God who died, then we do not have much of a God now, do we?
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

It seems God purchased it with His own blood.

There is your first verse...I will let you search away. If you need anymore help, I am always here.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

It seems God purchased it with His own blood.

There is your first verse...I will let you search away. If you need anymore help, I am always here.

Hmmm....Paul is talking of Jesus the Christ here not God. Perhaps you should read from vs. 17 down, that should clarify it for you.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

It seems God purchased it with His own blood.

There is your first verse...I will let you search away. If you need anymore help, I am always here.
There is nothing to search. Read IT. It says the "Church" of God. Who is head of the Church? Who is head of the Body? Who is head of the family?

Who was given this by His Father? Jesus was, that's who. He, after all, is King. Head of everything. But not the Father.

And Theos is descriptive of everything God. Like in John:

Jhn 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


It is the same as elohiym where this verse came from:

Psa 82:6
I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

So? Next you will be telling me that we ALL are the Father.....
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Hmmm....Paul is talking of Jesus the Christ here not God. Perhaps you should read from vs. 17 down, that should clarify it for you.
Good point. I went the long way around...
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Hmmm....Paul is talking of Jesus the Christ here not God. Perhaps you should read from vs. 17 down, that should clarify it for you.
You are so very wrong, however, I expected that from someone who I believe has not been quickened. The preceding subject is that of God, but you have not studied much Greek, as it shows.

Look again.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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Hmm, wonder who this was?

Rev 5:9
And they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased FOR God with Your blood {men} from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.


The Lion of the tribe of Judah? The Lamb of God? Perhaps,,Jesus?

But I can tell you who this wasn't. God the Father....
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