01-24-2009, 12:48 AM
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It seems like I always hear or see Hyde Park popping up in the forums. I live in the Cinci metro area right now but I'm planning to move to a neighborhood actually in Cincinnati. Since Hyde Park has been mentioned a lot, I decided to check out the area. I like the feel of the area but I was not able to get a real good feel for the neighborhood because the days I strolled through, it was really cold out so there weren't a lot of people out and about. I'm a single, 23 year old black male looking for a diverse neighborhood that is fairly safe and has a some Cinci transplants from different states "sprinkled" in the area. I'm thinking of living in Hyde Park Commons on Allendorf Dr. and wanted to know if you guys think Hyde Park would be a decent fit for what I'm looking for?
01-24-2009, 04:45 AM
Location: South of Cincy
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Location, location, location. Hyde Park is a nice neighborhood and central to Cincinnati. You're about 15 minutes from anywhere. In the spring and summer, you cannot drive through without seeing several joggers throughout the area. It's expensive, but very nice.
01-24-2009, 08:02 AM
Location: Cambridge, MA
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Hyde Park's a safe community, but "diversity" around there is defined as being Catholic - LOL! It's overwhelmingly WASP and preppie with a business district which reflects that: high-end clothing stores, meat-market bars, etc. Some notable "ethnic" restaurants are there, but they're of the silverware-and-linen-tablecloth variety. For everyday grocery shopping, Hyde Park Plaza (tucked away in a corner of the neighborhood adjoining Oakley) has a Kroger's. do you know? Where do you "summer" and spend the holidays? Do you mean to tell me you've never attended college? And you're not an attorney or a physician or a P & G'er, and not in advertising or finance? I think you know where I'm going with this. Hyde Park "profiling" dissects your economic status and prospects first and foremost, as the citizens are far too polite and sophisticated to bring race into the picture. They generally couldn't care less about what you look like as long as you think and act just like they do . All the same, realize that being followed around stores and having passersby on the sidewalk assume you're lost comes with the territory.
01-24-2009, 10:35 AM
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Allendorf drive is off Brotherton, right? In that case, you would be more connected to Oakley than Hyde Park (although I struggle with the distinction myself most of the time). Also, that whole Brotherton/Marburg/Ridge area is probably the least attractive streetscape in the area and less reflective of the upscale image often associated with the neighborhoods.
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A recent thread questioned why Hilton Head Island in South Carolina, an uber-WASP golf/tennis/spa resort, seemed to be so popular. The TO's screen name included Hyde Park's ZIP code (45208) which explained what'd prompted the inquiry.
That would be me.
Anyway, I think your analysis of Hyde Park is perhaps dated? Maybe it used to be that way? In my brief experience, the neighborhood is full of transplants from other regions and countries. That's hardly conducive to a culture of conformity, as the residents are often from vastly different places and cultures.
Now, I have noticed that most everyone here has a college degree (or higher) which I think is really nice. However, if someone has hangups about that sort of thing, I can understand why Hyde Park could evoke all those feelings of exclusion. However, I would suggest those are merely feelings, rather than reality.
Perhaps compared to Cincinnati's huge Catholic population Hyde Park seems WASPy? I'm neither a WASP nor a Catholic, but I've noticed plenty of both. (Not that you can actually tell - rather, I can see them going to their respective Churches). It sounds like you are using "WASP" as a negatively loaded term? Regarldless, as a non-WASP living in HP I can certainly say that the neighbors are super friendly and not exclusionary in any way!
01-25-2009, 06:54 AM
Location: Hartwell--IN THE City of Cincinnati
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If I were in your shoes, I'd walk away from Hyde Park and turn toward East Walnut Hills, Northside, Oakley, or maybe Clifton. There's more of a hodgepodge of humanity in those areas and a lot less pretentiousness.
Amen GoyGuy...way to be a trend setter instead of a follower...
Sorry Hyde Park folks, like the area but I am SOOO tired of hearing about it on this forum. There are so many wonderful and unique neighborhoods in the City (and outside the City), you just have to get out there and find what works best for you. I grew out of wanting to be apart of "clicky" things in High school and that is what I think about Hyde Park, clicky. Oh, and overpriced. Sorry.
01-26-2009, 06:58 AM
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I love Hyde Park but as others have said - It gets old hearing about it. I moved to Cincinnati last summer and my husband and I were told that Hyde Park was the place to be. We're in our 20's and have great jobs, but Hyde Park is just too expensive. We are renting downtown right now, which is great - tons to do and everything is walking distance. But we recently purchased our first house in Cincinnati and decided to go with Norwood. I've heard good and bad about Norwood, but it's a stone's throw to Hyde Park and Oakley but not nearly as expensive. We're near Rookwood, which has great restaurants and shopping and the area is growing every day. Don't count out Norwood...
01-26-2009, 07:29 AM
Location: Philaburbia
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I don't get the "halo" that's been drawn around it, myself. Hyde Park is overpriced and overhyped, if you ask me. It's nice, but ... dang. You can get more for your money elsewhere.
And it certainly isn't all that safe: I've known people who lived in Hyde Park who were victims of crime more than once, yet I could leave the back door unlocked -- sometimes even wide open
-- on my modest little bungalow in Madisonville, and never had a problem.
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Hyde Park's a safe community, but "diversity" around there is defined as being Catholic - LOL!
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01-26-2009, 08:41 AM
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Yeah, i mean Hyde Park is a nice safe neighborhood, close to everything and has a lot going on. However, its pricey. There really isnt anything you get in Hyde Park that you dont get in Norwood and you save a lot of money. Lower rent or a lot more house for your buck. Norwood doesnt have the same "wow" factor when you tell people where you live as Hyde Park but thats changing. Dont blow off Norwood and Oakley for that matter. There are areas that are less desirable by others but it should be investigated at least. I bet a lot of Hyde Parkers if you set them down on my street wouldnt be able to tell where it was.
01-26-2009, 09:57 AM
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I love Hyde Park but as others have said - It gets old hearing about it. I moved to Cincinnati last summer and my husband and I were told that Hyde Park was the place to be. We're in our 20's and have great jobs, but Hyde Park is just too expensive. We are renting downtown right now, which is great - tons to do and everything is walking distance. But we recently purchased our first house in Cincinnati and decided to go with Norwood. I've heard good and bad about Norwood, but it's a stone's throw to Hyde Park and Oakley but not nearly as expensive. We're near Rookwood, which has great restaurants and shopping and the area is growing every day. Don't count out Norwood...
Congrats and welcome to the neighborhood! Once the weather warms and if you like to walk or cycle, you will love the access you have to HP and Oakley (squares) as well as Rookwood.
01-26-2009, 12:30 PM
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Amen GoyGuy...way to be a trend setter instead of a follower...
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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