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Old 08-05-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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1500 is normal for San Jose. People who go there are the kind who are willing to work their arses off to pay it and then advance in their careers and move up to a point where they acheive greater affluence.

And then they can enjoy the "Cali Lifestyle". But you have to pay your dues first. Just like paying through through the nose to live in New York and other very desirable areas.

If a person can't hack it or is unwilling to put forth the effort to make it work, then perhaps going elsewhere is better for them.
I think what he was getting at is the dues are lower in Houston to live a similar lifestyle as in San Jose...
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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1500 is normal for San Jose. People who go there are the kind who are willing to work their arses off to pay it and then advance in their careers and move up to a point where they acheive greater affluence.

And then they can enjoy the "Cali Lifestyle". But you have to pay your dues first. Just like paying through through the nose to live in New York and other very desirable areas.

If a person can't hack it or is unwilling to put forth the effort to make it work, then perhaps going elsewhere is better for them.
Come on now. Nurses "supposedly" make more out in San Jose than in Houston, but you realize A LOT more in Houston because the cost of living is so much less. This is what allured her to move out there in the first place, the higher hourly pay. She wouldn't listen to me though, now shes thanking me. The numbers are good on paper only until you actually try to live off of whats coming in.

If a single late 20's something year old RN with no kids can't even hack in out in NorCal how is your Average Joe?
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I think what he was getting at is the dues are lower in Houston to live a similar lifestyle as in San Jose...
And I am definitely jealous of that.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:13 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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I think what he was getting at is the dues are lower in Houston to live a similar lifestyle as in San Jose...

not to mention the cost of living in even the new york metro is cheaper than the bay.

you dont HAVE to live in manhattan. There are literally tons of affordable places in the ny metro

the bay not at all. theres no where , that has reasonable prices, that is not a slum.

kind of hard to enjoy the "cali lifestyle" as montclair puts it, when the only way is if you are rich.

thats why inland california has grown so much. you can actually afford to live there and live a california life style
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:03 AM
 
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not to mention the cost of living in even the new york metro is cheaper than the bay.

you dont HAVE to live in manhattan. There are literally tons of affordable places in the ny metro

the bay not at all. theres no where , that has reasonable prices, that is not a slum.

kind of hard to enjoy the "cali lifestyle" as montclair puts it, when the only way is if you are rich.

thats why inland california has grown so much. you can actually afford to live there and live a california life style
I would rather rent and live in the Bay Area than buy a house in the valley. Have you seen what it looks like driving through Livermore to get into the valley on a Friday afternoon, no thank you. What's the point of moving out there when you spend half your time in your car driving into the Bay Area for work.

By the way you are talking you act like there is no middle class in the Bay Area, you should check out the East Bay sometime...tons of middle class families doing just fine. Not all 7 million residents of the Bay Area are filthy rich.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Come on now. Nurses "supposedly" make more out in San Jose than in Houston, but you realize A LOT more in Houston because the cost of living is so much less. This is what allured her to move out there in the first place, the higher hourly pay. She wouldn't listen to me though, now shes thanking me. The numbers are good on paper only until you actually try to live off of whats coming in.

If a single late 20's something year old RN with no kids can't even hack in out in NorCal how is your Average Joe?
Our perspectives are just different. Im the product of penniless immigrants who came to San Francisco with literally nothing and worked their fingers to the bone and eventually became millionaires.

If you want to make it happen, don't just sit there twittling your thumbs. Get a second or even third job. Increase your education. Network with people who know people that can get you a foot in, etc.

Places like NY or SF are full of people who will do whatever it takes to live there despite the cost of living and be quite happy. If your not willing to do that,then maybe one is better off elsewhere and that's just fine.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:43 AM
 
Location: The City
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Our perspectives are just different. Im the product of penniless immigrants who came to San Francisco with literally nothing and worked their fingers to the bone and eventually became millionaires.

If you want to make it happen, don't just sit there twittling your thumbs. Get a second or even third job. Increase your education. Network with people who know people that can get you a foot in, etc.

Places like NY or SF are full of people who will do whatever it takes to live there despite the cost of living and be quite happy. If your not willing to do that,then maybe one is better off elsewhere and that's just fine.

I agree - there are different levels of jobs and more importantly drive and aspirations. I mean honestly a RN is a good job but here on average would pay maybe 70-75K with a high end close to 90K, not really affording a ton of expendable income even with a modest residence in a decent neighborhood.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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oops.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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About numbers, Houston has 88,200 millionaires, in 2009 it surpassed San Jose (86,200) and should surpass Detroit in 2010 (89,100) and certainly Boston in 2011 or 2012 (102,300)
Assuming speculators and energy companies dont completely take the air out of the national economy with their high energy prices.

Houstons rise economically is a direct result of high energy prices which effects the rest of the country negatively. Its not an accident that Houstons economy finally climbed out of the abyss and everyone else economy simulataneously tanked when oil prices went from $20 a barrel to $140 a barrel a few years ago.

Quite frankly Houston's recent prominence repulses me.

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Old 08-06-2010, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Assuming speculators and energy companies dont completely take the air out of the national economy with their high energy prices.

Houstons rise economically is a direct result of high energy prices which effects the rest of the country negatively. Its not an accident that Houstons economy finally climbed out of the abyss and everyone else simultaneously economy tanked when oil prices went from $80 a barrel to $240 a barrel a few years ago.

Quite frankly Houston's recent prominence repulses me.
as always you know not what you speak of. Houston's economy has been booming for a good 15-20 years now.
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