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What you call "low-density sprawl," we call "breathing room." If I'm going to live in a suburb, I want to have a yard large enough to play football with my son. I don't want to be able to lean against my own house and then put my foot against yours.
Many of the subdivisions are exactly like that. My cousin has a house where I can play football in the back but if I stand between her and her neighbors house, I can touch both.
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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Please explain that one. NYC is by far the densest city in the country, yet it's MSA density is well behind L.A.'s. That is a huge telltale sign of low-density sprawl.
Wrong Info
NYC MSA - 18,897,109 population - 6,720 sq miles = 2820 ppsm
LA MSA - 12,828,837 population - 4850.3 sq miles = 2644 ppsm
Sprawl ended a while ago. The area is densifying now. L.A. CSA passes New York's (assuming the census doesn't annex more land to NY), it will be by densifying. Still a good 30 years away, IMO.
Location: NY-NJ-Philly looks down at SF and laughs at the hippies
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was responding to kidphilly's comment about NY and Philly combining.
for counties to be joined to a metro commuting patterns must meet the threshold to a core or central county instead of just any county in the metro.
So I am asking would Mercer be a central county in NY (or Philly) ???
If not then no cricket.
I don't know anything about the counties combining. I dont know if it will happen or when. I am just saying the area near NYC is "North jersey". The area near Philly and AC is "South Jersey". The middle of the state is "Central Jersey". Just divided into three parts. The state is only about 9,000 sq miles.
What you call "low-density sprawl," we call "breathing room." If I'm going to live in a suburb, I want to have a yard large enough to play football with my son. I don't want to be able to lean against my own house and then put my foot against yours.
Call it whatever you want, it's low-density sprawl. Miles and miles (and miles and miles) of it.
Many of the subdivisions are exactly like that. My cousin has a house where I can play football in the back but if I stand between her and her neighbors house, I can touch both.
See, that's not cool to me. I think it took people in California a while to realize that everyone can't have a house and yard...well, at least not all in the same metro area. Given the size of some of these houses, you might as well live in an apartment.
NYC MSA - 18,897,109 population - 6,720 sq miles = 2820 ppsm
LA MSA - 12,828,837 population - 4850.3 sq miles = 2644 ppsm
Try Again
Again, you're counting huge areas that are inhabited. Thats not how the Census Bereau calculates density:
There are more surprises in the Census Bureau's statistics on density, the Washington Post reported recently: 10 of the 15 most densely populated metro areas are in the West — and all of the top three. (Besides L.A., they're San Franciscowith 7,004 people per square mile and San Jose with 5,914. New York is fourth, with 5,309.) "If you want elbow room," one demographer told the Post, "move to Atlanta or Charlotte or the countrified suburbs of Washington. You probably aren't going to get it in the West. There, if you and your neighbor lean out of your windows, you can hold hands."
See, that's not cool to me. I think it took people in California a while to realize that everyone can't have a house and yard...well, at least not all in the same metro area. Given the size of some of these houses, you might as well live in an apartment.
I don't like it either, in fact I hate it. There are houses like that everywhere, all over Florida.
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