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There are some inconsistencies in this list and it is probably the highest critiqued list by academics, even more so than USNWR It is better than before, as they used to rank Stanford out of the top 10 (they got publically ridiculed for that one)...I'm not so certain how cal tech is so high, given their enrollment is so low... There is obviously extremely high value of the sciences in this ranking..
I don't really agree with UC Davis and over something like NYU... or UC Santa Cruz over UVA...
Dartmouth is also around 100? Though it is top 10 in USNews?
Imperial College London over Yale and UChicago?
Where are all the nobel prize winners...
UC San Diego over McGill?
Again, some inconsistencies going on.
Industry income is also quite low only 2.5% Factor...
Massachusetts and California holding down the Top 4...pretty cool.
There are some pretty serious "huh?!" rankings on here though...
I'd say the following schools which outrank Dartmouth on this ranking--yea Ivy League Dartmouth--are very questionable:
University of Arizona, Maryland-College Park, University of Utah, Ohio State, U of Colorado, Boston U, U of Massachusetts, U of Minnesota, U of Wisconsin, among a large group of others...
Massachusetts and California holding down the Top 4...pretty cool.
There are some pretty serious "huh?!" rankings on here though...
I'd say the following schools which outrank Dartmouth on this ranking--yea Ivy League Dartmouth--are very questionable:
University of Arizona, Maryland-College Park, University of Utah, Ohio State, U of Colorado, Boston U, U of Massachusetts, U of Minnesota, U of Wisconsin, among a large group of others...
It's because they put emphasis on teaching I suppose, 30% of it in "quality of teaching" which is pretty subjective. Another 30% on amount of stuff coming out of them (w/o relevance to what is coming out) Those are all BIG universities with huge enrollments (i.e. Ohio State) so of course they are going to have lots of papers and citations.
I have no problem with Cal/MA holding down the top 4, but I'd move UC Berkeley up there instead of Cal Tech...Cal Tech has a total enrollment of 2,130. Smaller than my high school.
Just to put it in perspective, Harvard is close to 20K and UC Berkeley is 35K.
Massachusetts and California holding down the Top 4...pretty cool.
There are some pretty serious "huh?!" rankings on here though...
I'd say the following schools which outrank Dartmouth on this ranking--yea Ivy League Dartmouth--are very questionable:
University of Arizona, Maryland-College Park, University of Utah, Ohio State, U of Colorado, Boston U, U of Massachusetts, U of Minnesota, U of Wisconsin, among a large group of others...
I'd say that the schools you mentioned deserve to be rated as is. Minnesota, Wisconsin, and OSU are actually very good schools. Dartmouth does need a higher ranking, though.
Still, these lists are always a bit biased and it is difficult to find concrete ways to rank colleges.
I'd say that the schools you mentioned deserve to be rated as is. Minnesota, Wisconsin, and OSU are actually very good schools. Dartmouth does need a higher ranking, though.
Still, these lists are always a bit biased and it is difficult to find concrete ways to rank colleges.
I'd say when National rankings come out, done by a publication in that nation, it becomes significantly more accurate. Again with more accuracy going down to the specific field level It is when these media groups try to do world rankings where it becomes pretty odd and you have several statistical HUHs?! Especially so.. since the different countries have different education systems Honors level, taught in different languages, different phd lengths, the field of law is extremely quirky as well. Lieter, Gourman, and USNWR field specific rankings are all pretty good and not much beef with them actually.
Then again, a lot of people are also concerned, and with good reason on "how much do these graduates actually make"...particularly with college costs skyrocketing. Most people hope along with just how good the education is, whether they are going to get a good ROI.
I just learned for instance, that somebody I knew didn't know how to do "X" ...and was recently enrolled at College A.... I was pretty baffled about it, and made me start questioning how prepared for the world some universities were making their students. The matter in question had to do with a 200 level computer skills class that was a REQUIREMENT for graduation, as well as an information literacy course which was also required for graduation. I learned they didn't have to take any of them, and it was what I thought was a pretty decent school (not on that list, but pretty okay)...I had to take those 10 years ago so really not much excuse besides from a bad curriculum and just "graduating everybody possible" mentality. Just goes to show that a lot of the time you get what you pay for... big difference in quality of College A, vs College B.
I'd say that the schools you mentioned deserve to be rated as is. Minnesota, Wisconsin, and OSU are actually very good schools. Dartmouth does need a higher ranking, though.
Still, these lists are always a bit biased and it is difficult to find concrete ways to rank colleges.
I'm not saying they were bad schools...but this particular list has them ranked above Dartmouth, which is clearly wrong. Brown is also surprisingly low at 50-something.
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