Don’t Look Back, Brooklyn; Houston Is Gaining on You (crime, cons)

[grapico]

Originally Posted by Infamous92

What the hell, that's very odd.

Both are part of The Atlantic Coastal Plain though.

new york has mountainous terrain and slabs of rock etc.

[Infamous92]

Originally Posted by grapico

new york has mountainous terrain and slabs of rock etc.

What's interesting is that NYC is the start/end point of that, there's a difference between Southern Queens/Brooklyn + Staten Island vs The Bronx, Northern Queens, & Manhattan.

Northern NYC being more rocky and Southern NYC being plain ole sandy (beaches) and marshy.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by mas23

for those who are not familiar
oak park il - Google Maps

^more urban than alot of neighborhoods IN the city

That's crazy suburban density. Miami has suburbs with similar density. Like Hialeah FL for instance: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...,0.026157&z=16


Here is a dense "suburban" area of Houston, inside the loop: Houston apartments - Google Maps


I think Houston's density is underrated to be honest.

[MiamiRob]

Originally Posted by Spade

Yet both Houston and Dallas LRT system performs better than Miami's heavy rail system when it comes to ridership per mile or just ridership in general. Chicago's system actually does go into a subway inside the loop. Unlike Miami which is all elevated.

2010 Second Quarter Ridership numbers from APTA :

City / Type of System / # of Daily Passengers / Length in Miles
__________________________________________________ _____

Dallas / Light Rail / 58,400 per day / 48.6 miles of rail

Houston / Light Rail / 34,600 per day / 8 miles of rail

Miami / Heavy Rail / 61,200 per day / 22 miles of rail
Miami / Metromover / 25,800 per day / 4.8 miles of rail

Just to clear things up on the ridership issue regarding the cities mentioned above. Miami's Metrorail carries about 3,000 more passengers per day on less than half of the miles than Dallas' Light rail system. I also added the MetroMover system downtown because it ties in with Metrorail & is currently expanding another 3 miles to the Airport which should boost ridership as well.
Houston's numbers aren't to shabby though for such a small system.

As for this thread? Sorry Houston but you could triple your population and you will never be another Brooklyn.

[HtownLove]

I think Brooklyn should never have joined NYC. It would have remained in the top ten largest cities all these years, and it would currently be the densest major city in the US. Even more dense than NYC (whose density would drop with Brooklyn's departure).

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by MiamiRob

As for this thread? Sorry Houston but you could triple your population and you will never be another Brooklyn.

we don't want to be. The world doesn't need another Brooklyn

[Alacran]

Originally Posted by polo89

Yeah, to answer the others arguing about Miami, for the most part, Miami is suburban. And about Chicago's burbs, Cicero is pretty dense from what I've seen(on TV and stuff) and I knew someone from Cicero. And Houston has some dense suburban areas it's self, inside the beltway of course.

Yes Cicero is dense. I was just there.
Trust me.

[migol84]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

we don't want to be. The world doesn't need another Brooklyn

haha

[5ive8ight5ive]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

we don't want to be. The world doesn't need another Brooklyn

the world needs another Brooklyn much more than it needs another sprawling suburban excuse for a city.

[SouthmoreAve]

Why hasn't this thread been closed?