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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 66 4.89%
Phil 25 1.85%
DC 121 8.96%
Atlanta 807 59.78%
Memphis 21 1.56%
New ORleans 33 2.44%
Houston 29 2.15%
Seattle 14 1.04%
Chicago 35 2.59%
Detroit 84 6.22%
Other (include in your reply) 14 1.04%
There is none. 101 7.48%
Voters: 1350. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-18-2024, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Do you have numbers for Houston, Dallas, Charlotte, and Chicago?
Not very familiar with Houston and Dallas. What are the historically Black areas of those cities?

I tabulated all PUMAs on the South/Southwest side of Chicago.

25,335 (32.3%)
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Old 01-18-2024, 04:53 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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The initial point is that NYC is the Black capital of the Northeast. DC cannot be the black capital of the Northeast when it 1) isn't technically in the Northeast and 2) doesn't have anywhere near the influence on black folks in the Northeast that NYC does.

I live in DC so this isn't a slight towards DC.
I'm not getting at the rest of the NE, but NYC who is know for "creating it all". NYC takes from other places then doesn't give credit back for who started what trends. This is well known in many circles.

But Black DC has had influence on Black NYC. It's just not showcased to the masses that this is the case. From the local black owned clothing brands, the New Balances trend that Jim Jones refuses to admit to but everyone else vouches for. P Diddy, Biggie, Russell Simmons, all these guys would tout how DC (chocolate city) had influences on how they moved at street level. Same thing with the fashion stuff and Kanye's quote about DC style. NYC cats going back decades looked to DC as an example of how to take over "Black Americas" streets with various things, fashion, parties/club scene etc. Then Atlanta eventually took the torch with the clubbing/party aspect for AA's.
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Old 01-18-2024, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I'm not getting at the rest of the NE, but NYC who is know for "creating it all". NYC takes from other places then doesn't give credit back for who started what trends. This is well known in many circles.
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You definitely said something with this one^^.



But Jim Jones wears New Balance? Since when? In 2024 that might be a net negative though.
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Old 01-18-2024, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'm not getting at the rest of the NE, but NYC who is know for "creating it all". NYC takes from other places then doesn't give credit back for who started what trends. This is well known in many circles.

But Black DC has had influence on Black NYC. It's just not showcased to the masses that this is the case. From the local black owned clothing brands, the New Balances trend that Jim Jones refuses to admit to but everyone else vouches for. P Diddy, Biggie, Russell Simmons, all these guys would tout how DC (chocolate city) had influences on how they moved at street level. Same thing with the fashion stuff and Kanye's quote about DC style. NYC cats going back decades looked to DC as an example of how to take over "Black Americas" streets with various things, fashion, parties/club scene etc. Then Atlanta eventually took the torch with the clubbing/party aspect for AA's.
I feel like everything you guys bring up about DC is so so minor and irrelevant.

"DC gave the world Taraji P. Henson!"

There are so many famous people from NYC and so many trends started in NYC that it's not even worth talking about really.
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Old 01-18-2024, 07:45 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You definitely said something with this one^^.



But Jim Jones wears New Balance? Since when? In 2024 that might be a net negative though.
No. This debate was between him and Wale about the 80's and where the trend started. This and Nike Boots were the topic of discussion. The article below is about the portion on Nike Boots and it took a former exec from the company to clear the air.

https://www.complex.com/sneakers/a/v...-harlem-debate
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Old 01-18-2024, 07:46 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I feel like everything you guys bring up about DC is so so minor and irrelevant.

"DC gave the world Taraji P. Henson!"

There are so many famous people from NYC and so many trends started in NYC that it's not even worth talking about really.
Lmaooo. No one is talking about Taraji P. Henson bro. wth lol
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Old 01-18-2024, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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No. This debate was between him and Wale about the 80's and where the trend started. This and Nike Boots were the topic of discussion. The article below is about the portion on Nike Boots and it took a former exec from the company to clear the air.

https://www.complex.com/sneakers/a/v...-harlem-debate
Thats very NY of Jimmy.
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Old 01-19-2024, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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No. This debate was between him and Wale about the 80's and where the trend started. This and Nike Boots were the topic of discussion. The article below is about the portion on Nike Boots and it took a former exec from the company to clear the air.

https://www.complex.com/sneakers/a/v...-harlem-debate
So not only has DC given the world Taraji P. Henson and Tabi Bonney, it's also given the world Nike Boots?!?!?!?
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Old 01-19-2024, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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These are the most famous Black people from Washington, DC. These are people who are the very least "black famous," meaning that many if not most Black Americans would recognize them.

Marvin Gaye
Dave Chappelle
Charles Drew
Duke Ellington
Cory Booker
Elgin Baylor
Jeffrey Wright
Clifton Powell
Regina Hall
Taraji P. Henson*
Adrian Dantley
Johnny Gill
Susan Rice
DJ Kool
Ari Lennox

*Grew up in MD
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Old 01-19-2024, 08:49 AM
 
Location: MD
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I'm not getting at the rest of the NE, but NYC who is know for "creating it all". NYC takes from other places then doesn't give credit back for who started what trends. This is well known in many circles.

But Black DC has had influence on Black NYC. It's just not showcased to the masses that this is the case. From the local black owned clothing brands, the New Balances trend that Jim Jones refuses to admit to but everyone else vouches for. P Diddy, Biggie, Russell Simmons, all these guys would tout how DC (chocolate city) had influences on how they moved at street level. Same thing with the fashion stuff and Kanye's quote about DC style. NYC cats going back decades looked to DC as an example of how to take over "Black Americas" streets with various things, fashion, parties/club scene etc. Then Atlanta eventually took the torch with the clubbing/party aspect for AA's.
Also, no New Yorker outside of true hip hop heads will admit that go-go music was woven into hip hop music in the 80's and early 90's. A lot of rappers stayed at HBCU's when they were coming up. They were at Howard all the time.
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