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Old 11-06-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Hmm I ride the red line multiple times per week and outside of late nights, I only have to weight 6-8 minutes top. During rush hours, the trains on unshared track seem to come every 1-3 minutes.
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Houston's "METRO" light rail system is pretty frequent (which is to be expected given that the line is only 7.5 miles long).
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:47 PM
 
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In Chicago, you usually wait 20-30 minutes for trains. Daley cut the train service, because he wants to subsidize downtown interests through TIF funding.

That's nothing compared to the havoc Daley caused with the buses. Daley shut down something like 40% of the bus lines. Chicago becomes more suburban by the day, but at least Daley is leaving, so there's hope.
We're talking about heavy rail here - not commuter trains.

The L runs every 3-12 minutes depending on the time of day and the specific line.

There were 9 express routes cut - although each of those routes still runs their local service. I have no idea where you got that 40% of bus lines were cut. No lines were cut - just the express service during peak periods.

They did cut 18% of bus service, mostly by trimming start times from 4am to 5am, and cutting end times from 12am-2am to 11pm-1am.

Daley doesn't control CTA train or bus routes/lines. He's the mayor.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:51 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Chicago has the best subway outside of nyc, period.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:34 PM
 
Location: West Loop Chicago
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We're talking about heavy rail here - not commuter trains.

The L runs every 3-12 minutes depending on the time of day and the specific line.

There were 9 express routes cut - although each of those routes still runs their local service. I have no idea where you got that 40% of bus lines were cut. No lines were cut - just the express service during peak periods.

They did cut 18% of bus service, mostly by trimming start times from 4am to 5am, and cutting end times from 12am-2am to 11pm-1am.

Daley doesn't control CTA train or bus routes/lines. He's the mayor.
That's his m.o. - just throw out some numbers with no supporting links and hope nobody fact checks.

Correct no stand-alone routes were cut and the buses that were cut ended up being one per hour on most routes. From my experience (I take the bus to blue line every day), the difference in wait times are barely noticeable. But the buses do seem a bit more packed than they used to be.

By the way this is nothing unique to Chicago - every U.S. transit system is having financial issues and either contemplating or implementing cuts.

SEPTA cuts spell trouble for Penn | The Daily Pennsylvanian

MTA Board Approves Widespread Service Cuts - Gothamist

BART Cuts Service in Response to Growing Deficit - The Daily Californian (http://www.dailycal.org/article/106615/bart_cuts_service_in_response_to_growing_deficit - broken link)

Details of drastic MBTA cuts - Local News Updates - The Boston Globe
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Chicago has the best subway outside of nyc, period.
Visually yes. Functionally no. That would be WMATA.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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Chicago has the best subway outside of nyc, period.
Chicago has the best subway in Illinois, period. Ok, maybe Northeastern Illinois.

Outside of Illinois, it has essentialy the world's dumpiest train. 90% of the system runs on rotting elevated tracks on in the middle of soot-belching freeways.

There's even two sections that have stop lights!

And Metra is almost 100% diesel. Pretty much every other major city on the planet has electrified their commuter rail a century ago.

Daley has been slashing like crazy on the transit, so ride it while you can!
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Chicago has the best subway in Illinois, period. Ok, maybe Northeastern Illinois.

Outside of Illinois, it has essentialy the world's dumpiest train. 90% of the system runs on rotting elevated tracks on in the middle of soot-belching freeways.

There's even two sections that have stop lights!

And Metra is almost 100% diesel. Pretty much every other major city on the planet has electrified their commuter rail a century ago.

Daley has been slashing like crazy on the transit, so ride it while you can!
LOL! Try again.

You are beyond clueless. How about you name the electric commuter rail systems in the U.S.?
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:00 PM
 
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LOL! Try again.

You are beyond clueless. How about you name the electric commuter rail systems in the U.S.?
Everything I said was correct.

FACT- The Chicago EL primarily runs on elevateds and in the middle of freeways

FACT- The Chicago EL has been victim to savage budget cuts

FACT- The Chicago EL has stoplights in NW Chicago (Brown Line) and in some Western Suburbs

And, since you need to know the U.S. electric commuter rail systems-

1. NYC- LIRR, Metro North, NJ Transit, Shore Line East
2. Boston- MBTA
3. Philly- Septa & PennDOT
4. Baltimore- MARC
5. DC- MARC & VRE
6. SF- BART

But Chicago's commuter rail is overwhelmingly diesel! Even big cities in the developing world have electric systems!
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Washington, D.C. all day
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Chicago has the best subway outside of nyc, period.
WMATA carries twice as many passengers and it doesn't have grade crossings (Brown and Blue line have then as far as I know. But two different types of systems nonetheless.
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