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I would have to choose SLC out of these two, as winter is shorter in SLC (they don't get the April, May and October snow that Denver typically gets). And SLC is drier and sunnier in the summer with a more Mediterranean style precipitation pattern
Honey, the mountains are way far away in Denver compared to SLC. When I was in Denver last week, you couldn't see anything for days from downtown until Sunday. In SLC, the downtown is in the foothills. It couldn't be hazy enough not to see some of the mountains there.
Yuck, your condescension discredits your entire post.
[quote=annie_himself;60419594]What about a suburb for black people? Those places are all 90% white. Aurora is like Queens compared to those lily white suburbs.
West Valley and South Salt Lake would be Salt Lakes most diverse Suburbs. Both are about 60% minority. South Salt Lake is 11% black, West Valley is 5% black and over 40% Latino. Not as diverse as parts of Denver, but we do have diverse areas. Granger High in West Valley is only 18% white.
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Although Denver’s foothills are 20 -30 min away, more people live in our mountain areas so there are dozens of canyons roads to choose from and thousands of trails maintained by Boulder, Denver, and Jefferson counties(counties with high populations and well run).
So I believe the infrastructure in Colorado is way better and we way have way more options even though you may have to drive.
How many of these canyons are accessed from I-70 though? Salt Lake County alone has Parleys, Little Cottonwood, Big Cottonwood, Emigration, Millcreek and City Creek. and Butterfield. As you go North and South from Salt Lake county you have even more canyons. The ski resorts are spread out among all of these so there is nothing even remotely comparable to I-70 style "ski traffic" in Salt Lake.
How many of these canyons are accessed from I-70 though? Salt Lake County alone has Parleys, Little Cottonwood, Big Cottonwood, Emigration, Millcreek and City Creek. and Butterfield. As you go North and South from Salt Lake county you have even more canyons. The ski resorts are spread out among all of these so there is nothing even remotely comparable to I-70 style "ski traffic" in Salt Lake.
I don't ski, I just hike and enjoy nature. So for me, i-70 isn't the main access road to most hiking in Colorado. I rarely go on i-70 at all. There is almost zero hiking off i70, and nobody around here hikes around ski resorts. Skiiing areas are terrible hiking areas. They try making them into dirt biking areas in the summer but those suck too. I saw on the map all the skiing areas up close to SLC and it saddened me, those areas usually suck for hiking. I am glad you have to drive an hour to get to those areas from Denver.
I don't ski, I just hike and enjoy nature. So for me, i-70 isn't the main access road to most hiking in Colorado. I rarely go on i-70 at all. There is almost zero hiking off i70, and nobody around here hikes around ski resorts. Skiiing areas are terrible hiking areas. They try making them into dirt biking areas in the summer but those suck too. I saw on the map all the skiing areas up close to SLC and it saddened me, those areas usually suck for hiking. I am glad you have to drive an hour to get to those areas from Denver.
I’ve hiked up millcreek 15 times this winter because it’s 15 minutes from my house right in the city. We have some amazing hikes with amazing access so close to SLC. Half the canyons don’t have ski areas millcreek, behind the U, Neffs) so I tend to hike up those.
Concerning the areas, SLC has Utah's most scenic mountains and most of the ski areas next door. Denver has the Front Range blob nearby, not quite next door. They aren't as rugged and snowy, but are more wilderness like and open. Where Denver shines is the amount of mountain options within 2-4 hours drive, there's so many ranges in CO that are amazing. The state has a lot more mountains overall. It doesn't have the same desert scenery though.
So SLC is better for the weekend mountain getaway nearby while Denver's better for those who want never ending mountain options in Colorado's 15 different ranges.
The cities are obviously different, in a sense they are a reaction to each other, one is where the older brother went who still parties at age 45 and vapes and the other is where little brother went who never drinks and has 4 children and a SUV.
Concerning the areas, SLC has Utah's most scenic mountains and most of the ski areas next door. Denver has the Front Range blob nearby, not quite next door. They aren't as rugged and snowy, but are more wilderness like and open. Where Denver shines is the amount of mountain options within 2-4 hours drive, there's so many ranges in CO that are amazing. The state has a lot more mountains overall. It doesn't have the same desert scenery though.
So SLC is better for the weekend mountain getaway nearby while Denver's better for those who want never ending mountain options in Colorado's 15 different ranges.
The cities are obviously different, in a sense they are a reaction to each other, one is where the older brother went who still parties at age 45 and vapes and the other is where little brother went who never drinks and has 4 children and a SUV.
I don't ski, I just hike and enjoy nature. So for me, i-70 isn't the main access road to most hiking in Colorado. I rarely go on i-70 at all. There is almost zero hiking off i70, and nobody around here hikes around ski resorts. Skiiing areas are terrible hiking areas. They try making them into dirt biking areas in the summer but those suck too. I saw on the map all the skiing areas up close to SLC and it saddened me, those areas usually suck for hiking. I am glad you have to drive an hour to get to those areas from Denver.
Okay, you don't ski, that's fine but this thread isn't exclusively about you and to many people living in these two cities it's a factor to consider.
I'd also still say SLC has more access to hiking for one because there's mountains on both sides of the city as opposed to just one.
I'd also still say SLC has more access to hiking for one because there's mountains on both sides of the city as opposed to just one.
Most people in metro Denver DO NOT go hiking in the high mountain ranges that are 1-2 hours away, because, as I've said a trillion times there is more road infrastructure and park infrastructure within the foothills and within 1 hour than there are in the high country areas. Just because an areas is more country or more mountainy does mean there is more hiking. You need infrastructure to hike 99% of hikers hike on developed trails, its actually illegal to go off the trail here.
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