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The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Phoenix, OKC, Tulsa, Omaha, Salt Lake City, Jacksonville FL, and Orange County CA. Harris County TX (Houston) barely voted for Obama and sometimes goes red.
Conservative cities also tend to be less walkable which makes a huge difference on forums such as this where most people prefer walkable cities and would prefer not to even have to own a car. It's next to impossible to make it in the cities mentioned above without owning an automobile. Even if you live in a walkable neighborhood, you'll still need a car because that neighborhood isn't going to have everything you are ever going to need to do and public transportation is hit or miss. If you are a hipster, that is no bueno.
Salt Lake City's metro doesn't break 1 million, and Salt Lake City itself doesn't break 200,000, it's relatively small actually.
Tulsa's metro population doesn't break a million either, but the city itself is right at 400,000, still not that big.
Jacksonville is a pretty split city, from what I know of it.
The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Phoenix, OKC, Tulsa, Omaha, Salt Lake City, Jacksonville FL, and Orange County CA. Harris County TX (Houston) barely voted for Obama and sometimes goes red.
Conservative cities also tend to be less walkable which makes a huge difference on forums such as this where most people prefer walkable cities and would prefer not to even have to own a car. It's next to impossible to make it in the cities mentioned above without owning an automobile. Even if you live in a walkable neighborhood, you'll still need a car because that neighborhood isn't going to have everything you are ever going to need to do and public transportation is hit or miss. If you are a hipster, that is no bueno.
The Houston metro does not belong in that group. Harris County is mostly suburban, and less than half of it is made up of TCOH. The county hasn't gone red in years and most likely never will again.
Is it so wrong to be treated like the 1st class citizen every now and then?
Are you implying minorities are treated like 2nd class citizens? Because I dont see it. Matter of fact if I did see a minority being treated as such I would bet all my savings that there would be 100 white people right behind shouting RACIST. Cant imagine it going the other way though.
Salt Lake City's metro doesn't break 1 million, and Salt Lake City itself doesn't break 200,000, it's relatively small actually.
Tulsa's metro population doesn't break a million either, but the city itself is right at 400,000, still not that big.
Jacksonville is a pretty split city, from what I know of it.
You need to check your numbers....
Salt Lake City 2009 population of 1,141,693, an increase of 172,835 or 17.8 percent since April 2000.[2] The Salt Lake City Metropolitan Area and the Ogden-Clearfield Metropolitan Area were a single metropolitan area known as the Salt Lake City-Ogden Metropolitan Area until being separated in 2005.[3]
Salt Lake City/Ogden CSA - population at 1,743,364 as of July 1, 2009
Salt Lake City 2009 population of 1,141,693, an increase of 172,835 or 17.8 percent since April 2000.[2] The Salt Lake City Metropolitan Area and the Ogden-Clearfield Metropolitan Area were a single metropolitan area known as the Salt Lake City-Ogden Metropolitan Area until being separated in 2005.[3]
Salt Lake City/Ogden CSA - population at 1,743,364 as of July 1, 2009
Looks like I was wrong On Salt Lake City, I was using the 2000 information.
I don't know if I posted already in this thread, but my preference is for dense older cities on or near a coast. The biggest exception would be Chicago, but Lake Michigan more than makes up for that.
So of the 25 Largest Metros, I would never want to live in:
1. Phoenix, AZ
2. Indianapolis, IN
3. Dallas, TX
4. Orlando, FL
5. Columbus, OH
It wouldn't kill me to live in any other of the top 25 Metros except maybe Detroit, Sacremento, Kansas City and San Antonio.
You clearly missed the point, and I won't bother highlighting it for you.
Is is surprising to you because you think the midwest doesnt have alot of black people? Well it does. Almost 600,000 in Indiana. Millions more in Illinois, Michigan, Ohio.
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