North Carolina, Florida, Georgia... Which state has the most upscale or semi-upscale malls? (better, largest)

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by nei

what is a lifestyle center?

Its like an open air mall.

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by jsimms3

First of all open-air malls are the new mall (enclosed malls are not going to die, but they aren't being built right now). FL has great weather for open air malls. An open air mall that is one development and managed by Simon Property Group or any other large mall operator is a mall.

Now Augusta Mall is anchored by Dillard's (and not their upscale version which can be found in Tampa's International Plaza and St. Johns Town Center and is on the level of Nordstrom or Bloomie's), Sears, Macy's, JC Penney, and Dick's Sporting Goods. Banana Republic is probably the most upscale small shop in the mall. A semi-upscale mall needs some upscale stores like at least a Brooks Brothers, but probably a slew of stores like Tiffany's, Louis Vuitton, Cole Haan, Kate Spade, at least an Apple Store, Lacoste, Ralph Lauren, etc. Nice restaurants like Capital Grille or The Palm or Legal Seafoods, etc at the mall are also an indicator.

Augusta Mall, enclosed or open, is an average mall that nicely serves its smaller market. Augusta will not see the nicer stores until it reaches at least a million people (and right now it's about half that).

And Atlantic Station is average, not upscale or semi-upscale (though it has some "upscale" restaurants price wise, not really food wise). I live across from AS. I'm pretty familiar with it. Its clientele are not upscale either.

I think one of the oldest open air malls was Lenox Square before it was enclosed in 1972-73.

[nortonguy]

Originally Posted by jsimms3

First of all open-air malls are the new mall (enclosed malls are not going to die, but they aren't being built right now). FL has great weather for open air malls. An open air mall that is one development and managed by Simon Property Group or any other large mall operator is a mall.

Now Augusta Mall is anchored by Dillard's (and not their upscale version which can be found in Tampa's International Plaza and St. Johns Town Center and is on the level of Nordstrom or Bloomie's), Sears, Macy's, JC Penney, and Dick's Sporting Goods. Banana Republic is probably the most upscale small shop in the mall. A semi-upscale mall needs some upscale stores like at least a Brooks Brothers, but probably a slew of stores like Tiffany's, Louis Vuitton, Cole Haan, Kate Spade, at least an Apple Store, Lacoste, Ralph Lauren, etc. Nice restaurants like Capital Grille or The Palm or Legal Seafoods, etc at the mall are also an indicator.

Augusta Mall, enclosed or open, is an average mall that nicely serves its smaller market. Augusta will not see the nicer stores until it reaches at least a million people (and right now it's about half that).

And Atlantic Station is average, not upscale or semi-upscale (though it has some "upscale" restaurants price wise, not really food wise). I live across from AS. I'm pretty familiar with it. Its clientele are not upscale either.

Augusta mall has a Apple, Sephora, Pandora, CCS, Williams Sonoma, PF Changs, Chop House, etc.. It's cleary the most upscale mall outside of metro Atlanta...

[ct36]

1. Bal Harbor Shops
2. Phipps Plaza
3. Lenox Square
4. Village of Merrick Park
5. Mall at Millenia
6. Waterside Shops at Pelican Bay
7. Town Center at Boca Raton
8. Aventura Mall
9. Palm Beach Gardens
10. International Plaza
11. SouthPark
12. St Johns Town Center
13. Perimeter Mall
14. The Galleria at Fort Lauderdale
15. Dadeland Mall
16. The Falls
17. West Shore Plaza
18. Streets at Southpoint
19. Mall of Georgia
20. Crabtree Valley
21. Florida Mall
22. The Mall at Wellington Green
23. Northlake Mall
24. Friendly Center
25. North Point Mall
26. Haywood Mall
27. Altamonte Mall
28. Augusta Mall
29. Brandon Town Center
30. Triangle Town Center
30. (tie) Columbiana Centre
30. (tie) Town Center at Cobb

I think that my list is definitely correct, however, a few of the rankings could be debatable.

[nei]

Originally Posted by Dallaz

Its like an open air mall.

I suppose I haven't heard of them before because they won't be very practical in the north.

Though, if you're going to have an open air mall, why not just put the stores in a town center or on a regular street?

[ct36]

Originally Posted by nei

I suppose I haven't heard of them before because they won't be very practical in the north.

Though, if you're going to have an open air mall, why not just put the stores in a town center or on a regular street?

Despite them not being very practical in the north, they do have a few: Village of Rochester Hills (MI), Patriot Place (MA), Waterfront (PA), etc.

[nortonguy]

Originally Posted by ct36

1. Bal Harbor Shops
2. Phipps Plaza
3. Lenox Square
4. Village of Merrick Park
5. Mall at Millenia
6. Waterside Shops at Pelican Bay
7. Town Center at Boca Raton
8. Aventura Mall
9. Palm Beach Gardens
10. International Plaza
11. SouthPark
12. St Johns Town Center
13. Perimeter Mall
14. The Galleria at Fort Lauderdale
15. Dadeland Mall
16. The Falls
17. West Shore Plaza
18. Streets at Southpoint
19. Mall of Georgia
20. Crabtree Valley
21. Florida Mall
22. The Mall at Wellington Green
23. Northlake Mall
24. Friendly Center
25. North Point Mall
26. Haywood Mall
27. Altamonte Mall
28. Augusta Mall
29. Brandon Town Center
30. Triangle Town Center
30. (tie) Columbiana Centre
30. (tie) Town Center at Cobb

I think that my list is definitely correct, however, a few of the rankings could be debatable.

Is this just for the southeast? Because I didn't see Riverchase in Birmingham, Northpark and Galleria in Dallas or the Houston Galleria...

But you left out North Point mall in Atlanta..

[SouthernBoy205]

Or the Summit in Birmingham.

[ct36]

Originally Posted by nortonguy

Is this just for the southeast? Because I didn't see Riverchase in Birmingham, Northpark and Galleria in Dallas or the Houston Galleria...

But you left out North Point mall in Atlanta..

I thought that's what you meant because you only put NC, GA & FL, so I included SC too. I'll make a new one but that means Augusta Mall is coming off...

[R1070]

Definitely Florida. no question