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^^^Atlanta is more economically diverse than DFW. The main reason is that Atlanta has many more government jobs than Dallas. Being the capital of Georgia, that is rightfully so.
I was talking about diversity and integration of people, in which the stats show DFW has the edge.
Economic Diversity: DFW
Education and Research:ATL
Poverty Rates: ATL
Educated Populace: ATL
Diversity/Integration:ATL by a hair
Median Household Income: IDK
Financial Sector:ATL
Global Name Recognition: TIE
Infrastructure: DFW
Transportation: DFW
Government Expenditures :ATL
Green Living /Green Expenditures: DFW
Tourism: TIE
Historical Value to U.S.:ATL
COL: DFW
If it wasn't for DFW's growth in population and in jobs, Atlanta will be best of the 2. However, DFW is beter by a hair based upon its growth, IMO.
Ever heard of XTO energy it’s a major power player when it comes to Natural gas in the United States. DFW also sit under the Barnett Shale a major gas producing field. DFW could dub itself King of the Natural Gas industry but they choose not too. Exxon is still based in DFW even if its dirty work is done down in Houston.
GDP/ Economy / Unemployment
GDP is relevant in the discussion because it’s one of DFW strengths. Simply put Atlanta isn't even in the same class as DFW in economic output. Dallas economy and housing market is forecast to boom well before Atlanta's. Besides Atlanta unemployment rates sits at 10.2 % even with having the advantage being the state capital of GA, which provides a significant amount of jobs for Atlantans. You can pride yourself on having a diverse economy all you want but a 10.2% unemployment rate only proves ATL at this point doesn't provide enough jobs for its 5.8 million residents. Metro Atlanta's Unemployment Rate Unchanged - 11Alive.com | WXIA | Atlanta, GA
LOCATION and TRANSPORTATION
I know Atlanta prides itself on location but its interesting to find a big chunk of those California business have relocated to DFW. Maybe DFW centrailize location plays a major part in its ability to attract corporations. Yes Atlanta is home to the world busiest airport but DFW fourth busiest and also home to two major airlines Southwest Airlines and American Airlines.
Quote from Copart’s CEO who will be relocating to DFW from California
BNSF Railway moves more intermodal freight traffic than any other rail system in the world.
Dallas/ Fort Worth is now a major gateway for distribution of goods to the major population centers of the central and eastern United States. The plan is to become the largest inland logistic hubs in the United States.
Techonology/ Telecommunication
Well Texas Instruments is nothing to sneeze at. It provides over 27,100 jobs that’s a pretty substantial number. It’s the number 1 supplier of digital signal processors, number 2 supplier of cellular phone chips, and number 4 manufacturers of semiconductors worldwide.
AT&T is the 7th largest company in the United States by total revenue, as well as the 4th largest non-oil company in the US
Soda Industry
I personally prefer Dr. Pepper over Coke.
Ever heard of XTO energy it’s a major power player when it comes to Natural gas in the United States. DFW also sit under the Barnett Shale a major gas producing field. DFW could dub itself King of the Natural Gas industry but they choose not too. Exxon is still based in DFW even if its dirty work is done down in Houston. XTO was acquired (not merged) by Exxon
Southern Company-The company is currently the 16th largest utility company in the world and the fourth largest in the U.S Mirant Atlanta Gas Light-AGL Resources, Inc. is a Fortune 1000, Forbes 2000 energy services holding company. Their principal business is distribution of natural gas in Florida, Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, Tennessee and Virginia, providing gas for more than 2.2 million customers.
GE Power Systems and G.E.Infrastructure and Technology Headquarters(2 out of 5 of G.E. companies are headquartered in Atlanta and they are the only 2 that have been the most profitable by far as the others are in the red) GE's new Digital Energy business, a smart grid engineering laboratory, and an exhibition area showing how the smart grid works. Employees will conduct research and development and application engineering.Headquartes will also be in Atlanta.
GDP/ Economy / Unemployment
GDP is relevant in the discussion because it’s one of DFW strengths. Simply put Atlanta isn't even in the same class as DFW in economic output. Dallas economy and housing market is forecast to boom well before Atlanta's. Besides Atlanta unemployment rates sits at 10.2 % even with having the advantage being the state capital of GA, which provides a significant amount of jobs for Atlantans. You can pride yourself on having a diverse economy all you want but a 10.2% unemployment rate only proves ATL at this point doesn't provide enough jobs for its 5.8 million residents. Metro Atlanta's Unemployment Rate Unchanged - 11Alive.com | WXIA | Atlanta, GA Yes and like Atlanta with so many people moving here before the recession for jobs,Dallas has people still moving there.Do you think the unemployment rate in Dallas will be 8.5 in a year.I willing to bet Dallas and Houston will go up as Atlanta and other cities go down in Unemployment as more people move to Dallas because like Atlanta was,its the land of "
mil and honey".The two cities will be much closer than they are now.GDP is only relevant to how fast it is growing,shrinking and diversifying.
Does this mean Dallas has a better future than Paris or L.A. too?Both have higher unemployment rates.But i have no problem giving this cat. to DAL
LOCATION and TRANSPORTATION
I know Atlanta prides itself on location but its interesting to find a big chunk of those California business have relocated to DFW. Maybe DFW centrailize location plays a major part in its ability to attract corporations. Yes Atlanta is home to the world busiest airport but DFW fourth busiest and also home to two major airlines Southwest Airlines and American Airlines.
Quote from Copart’s CEO who will be relocating to DFW from California
BNSF Railway moves more intermodal freight traffic than any other rail system in the world.
Dallas/ Fort Worth is now a major gateway for distribution of goods to the major population centers of the central and eastern United States. The plan is to become the largest inland logistic hubs in the United States.
NCR
Newell-Rubbermaid
Sony-Ericcson
First Data
All of those companies have moved to Atlanta from another city within the last 5 yrs except Newell Rubber maid which was about 10 years ago.There are at least 2 or 3 more but I cannot remember who they were at the moment.
Atlanta:Described as the largest inland port in the world, Atlanta has a long history as a trade crossroads and its growth has been linked to its role as a transportation and distribution center. As a hub for container and bulk distribution, Atlanta has doubled its intermodal capabilities over the last several years. CSX and Norfolk Southern are the Class 1 railroad freight carriers serving Georgia. With the 1988 federal designation of the General Purpose Foreign Trade Zone #26 in Atlanta, containers can travel inbound from the coast to the U.S. Customs office in Atlanta. Each line operates significant intermodal facilities in Atlanta.
Atlanta Logistics Innovation Council According to Harvard’s Institute on Strategy & Competitiveness, the Harvard cluster thinktank led by Michael E. Porter, metro Atlanta’s employment in logistics has tripled in the last decade and boasts one of the highest logistics growth rates in the country.
Delta Air Lines, Inc. (NYSE: DAL) is a major airline based in the United States[9] headquartered in Atlanta. Delta is the world's largest airline operating under a single certificate.
Delta is more than twice the size of Southwestern AND American Airlines combined
Techonology/ Telecommunication
Well Texas Instruments is nothing to sneeze at. It provides over 27,100 jobs that’s a pretty substantial number. It’s the number 1 supplier of digital signal processors, number 2 supplier of cellular phone chips, and number 4 manufacturers of semiconductors worldwide.
AT&T is the 7th largest company in the United States by total revenue, as well as the 4th largest non-oil company in the US The Georgia Tech Research Institute (GTRI) is the nonprofit applied research arm of the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Georgia. GTRI employs around 1,400 people, and is involved in approximately $200 million in research annually for more than 200 clients in industry and government
Scientific-Atlanta(founded by a group Georgia Tech researches)
At&t Wireless
Earthlink Wireless
Cox Communcations Headquarters
And recently Sony-Ericckson North American Headquarters
Quote:
The Georgia Tech Research Institute (GTRI) is the nonprofit applied research arm of the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Georgia. GTRI employs around 1,400 people, and is involved in approximately $200 million in research annually for more than 200 clients in industry and government
Soda Industry
I personally prefer Dr. Pepper over Coke.
Well Coke also makes Sprite,Fanta,Ginger Ale,Minute Maid Orange Juice..etc..SO Im sure we have something for you.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Okay first of all people, this is infuriating, stop bringing Houston (and other cities) into everything. I don't want to see Houston's name (or any other city) at all in this thread. This is about Dallas/Fort Worth & Atlanta, and lets keep at just those two. I don't care what the devil your excuses are, try to make intelligent and relevant posts, not useless ones and try to stick to the damn cities in the discussion.
Next, neither of these cities are coming close to being an Energy Capital, Finance Capital, or Entertainment Capital, so that argument has nothing to it. So you're saying it has more manufacturing potential of Chemical Petroleum than Southeast Texas? Talk about what Dallas is good at, against Atlanta. As for GDP, talk amongst yourselves to see if all of you agree if it's the best measure or not to the economic realm and influence of a city. We're talking about what these two cities are good at, lets try to keep it that way without involving other cities.
Thank you, I'll request the closure of the thread if it gets off topic, and I will report people who decide to take this into an off topic argument. I want a real thread that sticks to the topic, not a witch hunt.
afonega1, thanks for the post, but could you elaborate on future term economic policies from Atlanta?
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Well Coke also makes Sprite,Fanta,Ginger Ale,Minute Maid Orange Juice..etc..SO Im sure we have something for you.
We tend to place a lot of attention on fortune 500 companies but lets expand it to fortune 1000 companies.
DFW has 45 fortune 1000 companies ATL has 22 fortune 1000 companies
So DFW has double the amount of fortune 1000 companies. This is a good indicator of how the two metro will stack up in future when the economy gets back rolling.
Fort Worth Lockheed Aeronautics (makers of the F-16 fighting falcons the largest western fighter program, F-35 lightning II, and F-22 Raptor) Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Fort Worth lockeed Martin
Grand Praire Lockheed Martin Missle and Fire Control
Fort Worth Bell helicopter ( Makes several military helicopter that includes V-22 and H-1)
DFW is also home to the Central U.S. Defense Audit Agency
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