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Guidelines: 1. State whether you're using MSA or CSA, and if you're not using either state what you're using to reflect your metro's suburban region
2. State what you consider to be the "city-proper" (i.e. the city whose demographics will be subtracted out of the metropolitan total)
3. State where you're getting your data
4. Shorcomings of data
I'll go:
1. DC Metro area; using everything inside the beltway but outside the district, using every county that touches the beltway, every county that borders a county that touches the beltway, and every independent city contained within the said counties
2. DC is the city proper; its demographics are hence absent in the below numbers
Numbers (note this ONLY includes the one-race population and does not account for those of mixed-race) Total suburban population: 4,534,493
Racial distribution of total suburban population by percentages: 47.8 non-hispanic white, 23.2% black, 15.1% hispanic, and 10.7% asian Racial distribution of total suburban population by numbers: 2,167,018 non-hispanic whites; 1,051,820 blacks; 683,745 hispanics; 484,049 asians
Suburban Virginia population: 2,230,623
Racial distribution of suburban Virginia population by percentages: 55.4% non-hispanic white, 11.3% black, 16.3% hispanic, and 13.5% asian
Racial distribution of suburban Virginia population by numbers: 1,236,055 non-hispanic whites; 251,621 blacks; 354,158 hispanics; 300,066 asians
Suburban Maryland population: 2,303,870
Racial distribution of suburban Maryland population by percentages: 40.4% non-hispanic white, 34.7% black, 13.9% hispanic, and 8.0% asian
Racial distribution of suburban Maryland population by numbers: 930,963 whites; 800,200 blacks; 319,586 hispanics; 183,974 asians
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So those are the DC MSA numbers not CSA?
I'm assuming since in Maryland Anne Arundel and Howard county border beltway counties, but are a part of the Baltimore MSA. Those 2 counties alone would push the MD suburbs above 3 million, but of course are less diverse.
Guidelines: 1. State whether you're using MSA or CSA, and if you're not using either state what you're using to reflect your metro's suburban region
2. State what you consider to be the "city-proper" (i.e. the city whose demographics will be subtracted out of the metropolitan total)
3. State where you're getting your data
4. Shorcomings of data
1. CSA
2. Subtracting San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose
3. factfinder2.census.gov(2010 Census)
4. My issue is with what I believe to be major undercounting.
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA Combined Statistical Area Total Population 2010: 7,468,390 Non-Hispanic White 3,210,454...42.9%
Hispanic 1,797,078..................24.0%
Asian 1,657,828......................22.1%
Black 462,837...........................6.1%
Bay Area CSA without its Three Largest Cities. Total Population 2010: 5,326,489 Non-Hispanic White 2,500,313...46.9%
Hispanic 1,262,600..................23.9%
Asian 1,026,979......................19.2%
Black 282,037..........................5.2%
San Francisco, Oakland & San Jose Combined Population of the Bay Area's 3 largest cities(2010): 2,141,901 Non-Hispanic White 710,141...33.1%
Asian 630,849......................29.4%
Hispanic 534,478..................24.9%
Black 180,800........................8.4%
Bay Area Counties by Non Hispanic White Population, 2010
Marin County, CA.............72.6%
Sonoma County, CA..........66.2%
Santa Cruz County, CA......59.5%
Napa County, CA..............55.8% Contra Costa County, CA...47.6% San Mateo County, CA......42.2% San Francisco County, CA..41.8% Solano County, CA............40.6% San Benito County, CA.......38.1% Santa Clara County, CA......35.1% Alameda County, CA...........34.0%
Last edited by 18Montclair; 03-20-2011 at 12:20 AM..
EDIT: counties bordering beltway counties that aren't part of another MSA...from my original document- "I include the following suburban (that is jurisdictions in Maryland and Virginia, and not the District itself) county-level jurisdictions in my calculations*:
1) Those that lie entirely inside the beltway (Arlington County and the independent cities of Alexandria and Falls Church)
2) Those that lie partially within the beltway (Montgomery, Fairfax and Prince George's counties)
3) Those that border county-level jurisdictions that lie partially inside the beltway-provided are members of another metropolitan statistical area (Frederick, Calvert, Charles, Loudoun and Prince William counties)
4) Those that lie within any of the aforementioned county-level jurisdictions (The independent cities of Fairfax, Manassas and Manassas Park)
*The independent cities of Falls Church, Fairfax, Manassas, Manassas Park, and Alexandria are treated as counties for the purpose of this data. "
So, I include Arlington County, Fairfax County, Prince William County, Loudoun County and the independent cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas and Manassas Park in Virginia
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Montgomery, Prince George's, Frederick, Charles and Calvert Counties in Maryland.
I don't include Anne Arundel or Howard Counties b/c they're part of Baltimore's MSA.
Bay Area CSA without its Three Largest Cities.
Total Population 2010: 5,326,489 Non-Hispanic White 2,500,313...46.9% Hispanic 1,262,600..................23.9%
Asian 1,026,979......................19.2%
Black 282,037..........................5.2%
Nice! Pretty diverse, though dropping SF, SJ, and OAK drops the diversity a bit, but not much. I'd have considered dropping Solano, Sonoma, Napa and Santa Cruz counties as they don't form the core of the Bay Area...I'm guessing the diversity index would go up appreciably if this were done. Even Marin feels sooo disconnected from the main suburban swaths of the bay area: suburban Alameda and Contra Costa counties; peninsula (San Mateo) and suburban Santa Clara valley
Nice! Pretty diverse, though dropping SF, SJ, and OAK drops the diversity a bit, but not much.
Well, it does drop ever so slightly but I overall, even without the 3 cities, the region is one of the most diverse in the country.
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I'd have considered dropping Solano, Sonoma, Napa and Santa Cruz counties as they don't form the core of the Bay Area.
They are not the core but they are definitely suburban parts of the Bay Area and I dont want to leave anyone out just cause they are inconvenient truths. LOL.
Im still trying to prepare myself for in case we actually take in Stockton which is extremely diverse too but has all sorts of economic problems that will undoubtedly bring down many of our averages and medians.
Dont mean to sound snobby but ugh.
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Even Marin feels sooo disconnected from the main suburban swaths of the bay area: suburban Alameda and Contra Costa counties; peninsula (San Mateo) and suburban Santa Clara valley
Los Angeles Combined Statistical Area 2010 Population: 17,877,006 Hispanic 8,028,831..................44.9%
Non-Hispanic White 6,004,354...33.5% Asian 2,162,146..........................12.0%
Black 1,173,691............................6.5%
Los Angeles CSA Without LA City
Total Population 14,084,385 Hispanic 6,190,009....................43.9%
Non Hispanic White 4,917,446.....34.9% Asian 1,741,934...........................12.3%
Black 826,311................................5.8%
Los Angeles City
Total 3,792,621 Hispanic 1,838,822.......................48.4%
Non Hispanic White 1,086,908........28.6% Asian 420,212.................................11.0%
Black 347,380...............................,,,,9.1%
LA Area counties by Hispanic Population, 2010 San Bernardino County, CA 49.1%
Los Angeles County, CA 47.7%
Riverside County, CA 45.5%
Ventura County, CA 40.2%
Orange County, CA 33.6%
LA Area Counties by Non-Hispanic White Population, 2010 Ventura County, CA 48.6%
Orange County, CA 44.1%
Riverside County, CA 39.6%
San Bernardino County, CA 33.2%
Los Angeles County, CA 27.7%
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Originally Posted by bballniket Nice! Pretty diverse, though dropping SF, SJ, and OAK drops the diversity a bit, but not much.
Well, it does drop ever so slightly but I overall, even without the 3 cities, the region is one of the most diverse in the country.
Yup, the bay does have very diverse suburban areas...my aunt lives in San Jose, so I've traveled extensively through the silicon valley and lower east bay
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They are not the core but they are definitely suburban parts of the Bay Area and I dont want to leave anyone out just cause they are inconvenient truths. LOL.
Im still trying to prepare myself for in case we actually take in Stockton which is extremely diverse too but has all sorts of economic problems that will undoubtedly bring down many of our averages and medians.
Dont mean to sound snobby but ugh.
Yep, Stockton is very diverse and definitely has economic problems (Vallejo is in the same boat).
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Well yes, but there's no denying that Marin is a part of us as evidenced by this sign of the Marin County Line:
I feel like the Golden Gate bridge is basically the only thing keeping Marin as part of the SF region...it seems really cut off otherwise (though obviously you'll get a lot of locals spending time in Marin to visit Muir Woods, Point Reyes, etc.).
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POINT BLANK: WE NEED MORE BLACK FOLKS.
Yeah, the Bay Area could definitely use more blacks to add to the large presence of asians and hispanics. Though, I personally feel that blacks are a bit more distributed in the Bay than in SoCal. Either way, blacks in California are suburbanizing rapidly...so I'm sure inner east bay cities outside of Oakland, Richmond and Berkeley will soon house substantial black populations and the blacks from San Francisco may relocate to the northern peninsula.
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Hispanic 6,190,009....................43.9%
Non Hispanic White 4,917,446.....34.9% Asian 1,741,934...........................12.3%
Black 826,311................................5.8%
LA's suburban region seems a notch less diverse than DC's and the Bay's.
i wish the census would do age-based demographics. would be far more interesting to see demographic breakdowns by age group. for example student body demographics are often radically different than the overall demographics for a particular school district. sorry for somewhat off topic.
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