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I perfer the Variety/Diversity that California offers throughout the state and were also coveniently located to nearby places like Las Vegas and Mexico....Were also closer to Hawaii.
New York, by far. California wins in weather and cleanliness though.
I loved living in New York City. I've lived in three boroughs, and miss a lot of it. New York sports, and New York's international image the most. And of course kosher restaurants, and the large Jewish community (I'm a Jew).
I haven't been to California, but New York is my home. I was born and raised a damn yankee.
LA has the 2nd largest Jewish population, granted it's still 1/3 the size of the NY/NJ metro Jewish population. Though a book came out about 2 years ago from a deli expert who says that LA now has better and more authentic delis than NYC.
I think the perception of Jewish NYC is now shifting to Jewish LA slowly but surely.
LA has the 2nd largest Jewish population, granted it's still 1/3 the size of the NY/NJ metro Jewish population. Though a book came out about 2 years ago from a deli expert who says that LA now has better and more authentic delis than NYC.
I think the perception of Jewish NYC is now shifting to Jewish LA slowly but surely.
Judaism (estimated) Metro Areas (2000) | QuickLists | The Association of Religion Data Archives (http://www.thearda.com/QuickLists/QuickList_195c.asp - broken link)
NYC: 2,028,200
Los Angeles: 662,450
Miami: 337,000
After living in both NYC and LA, LA's Jewish population doesn't even come CLOSE to touching NYC's. I'm as much of an LA homer as the next LA resident, but realistically, LA's Jewish population is nothing like NYC's.
I'd argue that a larger percentage of LA's Jews aren't American Ashkhenazi Jews who has family has been here since the late 19th century-early 20th century, but more of the Sephardic and Mizrahi type (especially Persian Jews) and more recent Russian Jewish arrivals of the 1990s (especially in West Hollywood). But in terms of numbers, wouldn't be surprised if NYC beats LA at all.
You'r right NYCs is way bigger. LA's is bigger than Miami by every secular Jewish organizational measures. A lot of people in LA are byproducts of mixed marriages with one Ashkenazic Jewish parent and one non Jewish parent. I consider them culturally Jewish if they associate as being Jewish, go to the deli on Sundays, etc.
LA does have a lot of Persian and other Sephardic Jews versus Ashkenazic especially in Beverly Hills then in the Valley in Sherman Oaks, Encino, and Woodland Hills. There are a lot of Russian Jews in Encino and Tarzana as well.
There's no question NYC has LA beat 3x over for Jewish population. But LA does have better delis!
I will say this about NY, as a state, it hahttp://www.s4.brown.edu/us2010/segregation2010/city.aspx?cityid=3605100s a lot for its size. There are 29 states that are bigger in terms of land.
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I perfer the Variety/Diversity that California offers throughout the state and were also coveniently located to nearby places like Las Vegas and Mexico....Were also closer to Hawaii.
Just to be fair, NY is closer to cities like Boston, Philly, DC and some other great cities. Canada and great cities there like Toronto, Montreal,Quebec City and Ottawa are very close too.
As for diversity in other NY cities, it's there and take a look: US2010
You'r right NYCs is way bigger. LA's is bigger than Miami by every secular Jewish organizational measures.
I haven't sifted through all the statistics, but for the most part, I'd probably agree with you. However, Miami's Jewish population IS probably growing way faster than LA's at this point, given the propensity of Jewish retirees from the Northeast and Midwest to congregate down in the Miami area (in addition to having a decent Russian Jewish population of their own).
However, I will say that I have been noticing an increasing Israeli population here. Again, this is just a hunch of mine, but LA's Jewish population has a HUGE foreign born element that may or may not be present in Miami. It probably is in NYC, but probably not as high of a percentage as LA's (given the HUGE local American born Jewish population there)
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A lot of people in LA are byproducts of mixed marriages with one Ashkenazic Jewish parent and one non Jewish parent. I consider them culturally Jewish if they associate as being Jewish, go to the deli on Sundays, etc.
LA does have a lot of Persian and other Sephardic Jews versus Ashkenazic especially in Beverly Hills then in the Valley in Sherman Oaks, Encino, and Woodland Hills. There are a lot of Russian Jews in Encino and Tarzana as well.
You pretty much described my old community college (Los Angeles Valley). A lot of Persian Jews, Russian Jews, Israeli Jews, American Jews, etc.
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There's no question NYC has LA beat 3x over for Jewish population. But LA does have better delis!
I don't know about that. On average, I've had better deli food in NYC than I have here (LA, outside of the Fairfax district and some select areas of the Valley really doesn't have that many corner delis, and even the 'higher class' delis would probably be something you'd find in your average Brooklyn neighborhood). Delis are more of a traditional Eastern European Jewish thing, something which the Sephardic Jews of LA don't really partake in as much traditionally (at least according to my understanding). However, I've had the best Persian food cooked by Persian Jews before, in addition to having some of the most exotic, pretty girls I've ever seen
LA has NYC beat on other things for sure, but I'd hesitate to say that deli food is one of them IMO.
Anyways, back to California vs. New York. This thread has been done so many times already, usually with the same results. I just appreciate the differences for what they are and move on
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