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View Poll Results: Which group of cities do you think of when you hear "Old South"?
New Orleans, Charleston, Savannah 43 76.79%
Birmingham, Montgomery, Jackson (MS) 13 23.21%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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I think the term "old South" tends to bring up two kinds of images. The first is the historic, colonial-era, antebellum South that is embodied by cities like New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah--cities that are now big tourist draws with a lot of historic architecture, in some cases having distinct subcultures (Gullah/Geechee in the SC and GA Lowcountry; Creole and Cajun in LA), etc. The second image the term conjures up is more negative and usually centers around the Civil Rights era when it comes to cities that demonstrated intense resistance to integration and, in some cases, had some violent occurrences associated with that. For the purposes of this thread, I will use Birmingham, Montgomery, and Jackson as examples.

So, when you think "old South," do you typically think of the more historic cities or the cities that played more prominent roles during the Civil Rights era?
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
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definitely the more historic areas like New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah. I'm originally from Atlanta so I have to constantly defend against peoples opinions of Georgia as a backwards, redneck, hill billy state or think were all trying to break away from the states again and its tiring there are really rural areas of the state but with over half the population of Georgia in the metro of Atlanta it's more statistically common to find just the opposite of peoples opinions of Georgia. I mean I am not naive enough to believe that there aren't still people who want that, but nowhere near the majority, but there are lots of big trucks that make the other states I've been in seem like a Geo lol.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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Vanderbilt and Biltmore Estate so neither of the options offered
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Vanderbilt and Biltmore Estate so neither of the options offered
Pick the group of cities that's closest. Seems that your impression is more on the positive side, so that would be the first set of cities.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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What the hell are you talking about positive side? I didn't say anything about positive or negative and more importantly it concerns me that you are labelling one option as "positive" and the other as "negative" in your head.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Charlotte again!!
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Both groups of cities
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta the Beautiful
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What the hell are you talking about positive side? I didn't say anything about positive or negative and more importantly it concerns me that you are labelling one option as "positive" and the other as "negative" in your head.
wow, the op really pissed you off, but i can understand why he would say that. Many terrible things occurred in the cities he put with "negative" in terms of hatred, bigotry, and violence, however I see those cities in a positive light because they have done so much to remove themselves from those terrible associations, they may not be entirely there yet but they are trying.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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See the thing is, I think of "Old South" as pre-Civil War. The cities that come to mind are those (especially Charleston) who were the most prominent before the Civil War. The Civil Rights history of Birmingham, Montgomery, Selma, etc. is a whole century after that.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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What the hell are you talking about positive side? I didn't say anything about positive or negative and more importantly it concerns me that you are labelling one option as "positive" and the other as "negative" in your head.
Not sure why you felt the need to go off like that, but it's really not that serious. Calm down.

If you want to have an intelligent discussion about the "positive" and "negative" aspects I highlighted, feel free to do so in a respectful manner. I'm open to that.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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So, when you think "old South," do you typically think of the more historic cities or the cities that played more prominent roles during the Civil Rights era?
Neither. I take it as a step back in time. Its usually the architecture and people that give it its old south feeling. These towns tend to not be near major roadways and real southern hospitality is still alive. I've visited New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah and they all seem to be ghosts of time past.
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