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Actually in this thread, we have finally put to bed the speculation that that Mercer County was taken away from Philadephia unfairly. In reality, Mercer County sends well over 15% of its commuters to New York hence its rightful combining with the Big Apple.
That alone, is cause to celebrate.
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Nice picks on counties.
I simply picked the counties you drive through when traveling between New York City and the city of Philadelphia, which is the logical thing to do.
It is you that totally blows out of proportion and exaggerates the number of people who live 'in between' these 2 cities.
I simply picked the counties you drive through when traveling between New York City and the city of Philadelphia, which is the logical thing to do.
It is you that totally blows out of proportion and exaggerates the number of people who live 'in between' these 2 cities.
7.5 Million people? Hardly.
How is that the logical thing to do? I would interpret what KidPhilly said as the counties of the NYC and Philadelphia MSA which lie to the Southwest of NYC and Northeast of Philadelphia...
Actually in this thread, we have finally put to bed the speculation that that Mercer County was taken away from Philadephia unfairly. In reality, Mercer County sends well over 15% of its commuters to New York hence its rightful combining with the Big Apple.
That alone, is cause to celebrate.
I simply picked the counties you drive through when traveling between New York City and the city of Philadelphia, which is the logical thing to do.
It is you that totally blows out of proportion and exaggerates the number of people who live 'in between' these 2 cities.
7.5 Million people? Hardly.
Well then you missed quite a few (Camden, Burlington, Monmoth, Bergen, Somerset) on the driving then didnt you, even if by driving and at least 3 million more if this were your methodology
And so does Mercer qualify with Philly, wasnt that always the point, furthermore I think a lot of the discussion is also on how commuter rates many times do not tell the story of interconnectivity (I also proved that the Philly MSA has more interconnectivity) but actually is all mute, with the data discussed yesterday Mercer will qualify as a MSA county with NYC and Philly will attach to the NY CSA via Burlington county NJ - what does that mean, really nothing as we are talking about lines and places a few miles apart and end of the day the region is what it is
And on rightfully part of the big apple. Glad the stats will show, the people there may feel differently that actually live there, should they lower their Phillies and Eagles flags and put up Yankees and Giants ones?
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How is that the logical thing to do? I would interpret what KidPhilly said as the counties of the NYC and Philadelphia MSA which lie to the Southwest of NYC and Northeast of Philadelphia...
That's your interpretation and I respect that, but I disagree.
We do not drive through every county in New Jersey when traveling between New York and Philadelphia, in fact apart from a relatively tiny number of people who commute to Mercer County from the Philadelphia Area, the connection via jobs amont to grains of sand.
Furthermore, this insistence that NY and Philadelphia are in reality, a vastly intermingled, unoffically but actually unified, intermingled, interdependent region is a flat out inaccuracy.
That's your interpretation and I respect that, but I disagree.
We do not drive through every county in New Jersey when traveling between New York and Philadelphia, in fact apart from a relatively tiny number of people who commute to Mercer County from the Philadelphia Area, the connection via jobs amont to grains of sand.
Furthermore, this insistence that NY and Philadelphia are in reality, a vastly intermingled, unoffically but actually unified, intermingled, interdependent region is a flat out inaccuracy.
That's just not true.
WTF. I am talking about the space in between. Those counties I highlighted are in the space between and are huge job centers, you miss the point honestly
Grains of sand? the 95K that comingle with Mercer everyday represent 35% of the total workforce either in or residng in Mercer alone.
Ok believe that there is some great wall that seperates the millions of people here. Also more people cross the NYC/Philly MSA borders for work everyday than do in Balt/DC in absolute numbers (not %'s).
And Montclair in Alameda and Costra - how many of these 2.5 million really live along the driving path from SF to Sac?
Well then you missed quite a few (Camden, Burlington, Monmoth, Bergen, Somerset) on the driving then didnt you even if by driving and at least 3 million if this were your methodology.
Pick a route and tell me how you get 7.5 Million people?
Here are the counties between Philadelphia City and New York City along the 95 freeway: 2010 Census:
Hudson, NJ 634,266
Essex, NJ 783,969
Union, NJ 536,499
Middlesex, NJ 809,858
Mercer, NJ 366,513
Burlington, NJ 448,734
Camden, NJ 513,657 Total: 4,093,496
Still, doesnt really overwhelm this...
Counties in between Sacramento City and San Francisco City on the 80 freeway:
2010 Census
Alameda, CA 1,510,271
Contra Costa, CA 1,049,025
Solano, CA 413,344
Yolo, CA 200,849 Total: 3,173,489
That's your interpretation and I respect that, but I disagree.
We do not drive through every county in New Jersey when traveling between New York and Philadelphia, in fact apart from a relatively tiny number of people who commute to Mercer County from the Philadelphia Area, the connection via jobs amont to grains of sand.
Furthermore, this insistence that NY and Philadelphia are in reality, a vastly intermingled, unoffically but actually unified, intermingled, interdependent region is a flat out inaccuracy.
That's just not true.
The 2 areas may not be as intermingled as the Bay Area but their is still a descent level of that between the Philly and New York area. There are grey areas that are have towns with both New York and Philadelphia commuters. The regions aren't as isolated as you think they are.
As for Mercer County, Yes there are more commuters going to New York MSA but to the contrary there are more Philly MSA commuters to Mercer County than there are New York MSA commuters to Mercer County.
How is that the logical thing to do? I would interpret what KidPhilly said as the counties of the NYC and Philadelphia MSA which lie to the Southwest of NYC and Northeast of Philadelphia...
How is Montgomery County, Pennsylvania 'on the way' to NYC from Philly?
I'm a native New Yorker and dream of one day returning home to NYC, the less NYC has anything to do with Philly the better.
How is Montgomery County, Pennsylvania 'on the way' to NYC from Philly?
I'm a native New Yorker and dream of one day returning home to NYC, the less NYC has anything to do with Philly the better.
I agree Montco was a stretch, read back, I noted
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