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Of course Texas is a "peripheral" Southern state. So is Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, Florida, etc. Some "Deep South purists" would also advance the case that so are North Carolina and Louisiana! LOL
I don't agree with any of that...but it is truly the mindset of some of those in the self-described deepest "Deep South" actually consider themselves "experts" on the matter of what defines "the South" by that facet alone.
Hey, sorry to burst that bubble. But being from Mississippi/Alabama/Georgia does NOT -- in and of itself -- bestow the credentials of being an "authority" on the South! Any more than my being from Texas -- in and of itself -- gives me the right to pontificate on what actually happened at the Alamo! LOL
Anyway, yes, Texas is TEXAS. We all know that. The point is though that even most of the things that make Texas uniquely Texas, are actually of Southern origins and formations! And -- IMHO -- it is unfortunate so few see/realize it. The Texas cowboy is a prototype of the Old South cattle droving tradition. The famed "Texas accent"? It is simply an east Tennessee/North Alabama dialect moved west. The BBQ of Texas is of the Southern tradition of cooking/smoking...even if often times beef and not pork.
Catfish? And fried okra? Oh lord, don't get me started on that good stuff....! LOL
Seriously, I see your point, I really do. BUT...where we part company is that Texas is -- despite the attempts of some to make it "seperate" for reasons of politics and business and such -- the underlying elements of what makes Texas TEXAS, are very much Southern. Not Southwestern, and definetly not Midwestern nor Mountain Western.
Thanks for a good reply, even in disagreement!
Brother Reb--
I have been reasonable all along, all throughout this thread--some on here just did not like what I had to say!
I see it this way--Texas is a spawn of The American South (and Mexico/Southwest/Tejano).
Just like the U.S. is a spawn of England/Great Britain.
...and Latin America is a spawn of Spain.
When I come to Texas--me, you, and Brother Saintmarks will have a beer and continue discussing The Nation of Texas and The American South (though I may opt for red wine--part of my snooty Atlanta roots--you know, the Capital of The American South...).
No. Louisiana is a mini-region of the The American South that adds to the greater whole.
Texas also has several mini-regions that add to its greater whole.
There is a such thing as "Texas German" for Christ's sake--how cool is that???
I wouldn't use the German nationality as the one that supposedly trumps the Midwest....considering the Midwest is THE most German part of the country, specifically, Minnesota and Wisconsin....BY FAR more German than Texas.
I wouldn't use the German nationality as the one that supposedly trumps the Midwest....considering the Midwest is THE most German part of the country, specifically, Minnesota and Wisconsin....BY FAR more German than Texas.
Dont worry. He is only talking about how Texas is distinct, unique(like other states are not), and oh I almost forgot, not apart of the South. I cant remember the last time he mentioned the Midwest. You should actually be happy becuase he is taking away from what cities "qualify" as Southern which would probably make the Midwest win. He probably thinks Atlanta can stand up against Chicago but it is more like Cleveland and Atlanta(probably giving too much credit to Atlanta). He just doesnt want to be a fourth rate citizen in his own region.
I wouldn't use the German nationality as the one that supposedly trumps the Midwest....considering the Midwest is THE most German part of the country, specifically, Minnesota and Wisconsin....BY FAR more German than Texas.
I wasn't postin' it to try an' trump the Midwest--I just just think "Texas German" and "German Texans" are cool as $h!+.
Louisiana French and French Louisiana--such integral parts of the beautiful, dynamic American South.
Try again.
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