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If new yorkers had to find something relatively similar to what they're used to, transportation wise(the most important deciding factor), cityscape wise, culture wise, they'd choose Chicago.
I agree with you in that Chicago would be the best option when it comes to which city can offer the best transportation after New York City. Chicago would win also when it comes to cityscape(though I don't think that's really important) but as far as culture, they are not that similar.
I agree with you in that Chicago would be the best option when it comes to which city can offer the best transportation after New York City. Chicago would win also when it comes to cityscape(though I don't think that's really important) but as far as culture, they are not that similar.
Developing as THE premiere city, just about any city cos have developed a NY type transit system.
The first trams/trolleys were horse drawn rail in New York, New Orleans was second.
The first cable cars were in San Francisco
The first non horse system was in Richmond and Cleveland.
SF and Galveston had the first carbon fueled rail systems.
So there are various places that a world class transit system could have developed if the city was more fortunate to be the new New York.
I decided to go with the capital, in the end. I don't think it'd be the biggest without New York, but premier has a lot of definitions and DC would be the most important.
DC is arguably the most important city already, certainly the most powerful. We're so conditioned to proclaim NYC #1 in eveything, but in terms of shaping big events that impact on society, at home and abroad, DC just kills The Big Apple. Kills everyone. Think of all the big seismic events that changed society in the last 50 years--The Civil Rights Act, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, SALT, NAFTA, Roe v Wade, Afghanistan, Obamacare. The straw that stirred the drink has been DC.
Having said that, no way would the city itself move to #1 if New York disappeared. It would stay in its own weird, hard-to-define tier.
Not to nitpick, but does this predate the current system (origins in 1873), because New York had cable cars before that.
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DC is arguably the most important city already, certainly the most powerful. We're so conditioned to proclaim NYC #1 in eveything, but in terms of shaping big events that impact on society, at home and abroad, DC just kills The Big Apple. Kills everyone. Think of all the big seismic events that changed society in the last 50 years--The Civil Rights Act, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, SALT, NAFTA, Roe v Wade, Afghanistan, Obamacare. The straw that stirred the drink has been DC.
Having said that, no way would the city itself move to #1 if New York disappeared. It would stay in its own weird, hard-to-define tier.
Yeah, I basically decided that since DC is already arguably the most important city, if you removed the financial center of the U.S., it would have a better argument. It's a bit of a copout, but I'm going with it.
Certainly. Sadly, people with below average IQ would not accept that.
L.A economy, despite of its size, is still being controlled by corporations headquartered in New York, Chicago, D.C, Tokyo, London, Paris..,etc. Major corporations like Computer Sciences Corp., Northrop Grumman, Hilton Hotels have moved their headquarters out of L.A in the last few years. Raytheon also moved its headquarters staff in the L.A area to Texas. The lack of corporate power and financial flows explains why L.A is powerless when it comes to decision making and influence. The Economist and other publications are totally spot-on when they consider Chicago as America's 2nd most competitive and powerful city.
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I'd strongly suggest that GDP, while important, is merely one factor in a city's aggregate worth.
Certainly. Sadly, people with below average IQ would not accept that.
L.A economy, despite of its size, is still being controlled by corporations headquartered in New York, Chicago, D.C, Tokyo, London, Paris..,etc. Major corporations like Computer Sciences Corp., Northrop Grumman, Hilton Hotels have moved their headquarters out of L.A in the last few years. Raytheon also moved its headquarters staff in the L.A area to Texas. The lack of corporate power and financial flows explains why L.A is powerless when it comes to decision making and influence. The Economist and other publications are totally spot-on when they consider Chicago as America's 2nd most competitive and powerful city.
Except for Los Angeles still does well on many of these publications - it's certainly not "powerless".
In the Economist study, Los Angeles is ranked at 17 (with a score of 62.7), and Chicago is at 9 (with a score of 65.6). While Chicago certainly did well, improving 3 spots (4.6 "points"), Los Angeles fared even better moving up 7 spots (5.0 "points"). The way you make it sound, Los Angeles is losing influence when it is clearly gaining it. Additionally, the gap between LA and Chicago (2.9 "points") is much smaller than the gap between NYC and Chicago (10.1 "points").
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The city is the second most competitive US city in terms of economic strength (ranked 27th globally).
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Continuous upgrades to the infrastructure of its port help to protect the city’s position as a trade gateway to the Pacific Rim.
It's all about skyscrapers? London missed that memo.
Though London is on quite the skyscraper building boom these days actually
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