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Old 12-16-2013, 12:26 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by DC's Finest View Post
That development is surburban looking like ****!
Lots of it is. Some of it is alright--much of that is because LA became a megalopolis by having sprawl fill in the space between the very many small city/town centers so you'll come across a good number of these small city centers that are pretty alright and which have recently gotten a bit more care and attention directed towards them.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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LA definitely has more urban intensity than DC and Baltimore, no question. I would probably say Boston and Philly too.

LA is a beast. You can be 40 miles from LA and its still pretty dense development

Ummm...no....

Not urban
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+a...12,172.77,,0,0

Not urban
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+a...12,173.67,,0,0

Not urban
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+a...12,343.93,,0,0

Not urban
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+a...&cbp=12,0,,0,0
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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All those pics are significantly more urban than Bethesda or Wheaton, though. I would live in these areas before Wheaton if I wanted a walkable, transit-oriented lifestyle (though to be honest neither option is ideal).
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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Looking around at these DC "TOD's", many of them have the metro station tucked away at one end of the "core". They look like places in which residents would drive the vast majority of the time, with the exception being when they go to work in another node or in downtown DC, and even then it would be interesting to see just how full the park and ride lots get.

Also that poster you are "debating" with is the king of tailoring the argument to suit DC, and I think just about everyone on this board knows it.
I'm confused! TOD places like Rosslyn, Bethesda, Ballston, Silver Spring, Clarendon, Pentagon City, Crystal City, etc., don't have any parking lots. The metro stations are the heart of the core. These places serve as a semi DT area with shops, restaurants, stores and more.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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You can't possibly think that was a reasonable argument, right?
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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You gotta admit that DC metro is unique. It's probably the only city in the US where you can hop on an underground subway in a urban DT suburb (like Bethesda) and go to another urban DT suburb (say Clarendon) and have lunch, shop, etc... all underground and all within an hour.
You can do that in Los Angeles as well. Maybe not to as many places but along the Red, Purple, Expo and Gold Lines it is quite easy.

Boston - also quite easy to get to Somerville, Brookline, Cambridge, Newton, Quincy.

DC has a great transit system but it is not that unique of a metro area.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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All those pics are significantly more urban than Bethesda or Wheaton, though. I would live in these areas before Wheaton if I wanted a walkable, transit-oriented lifestyle (though to be honest neither option is ideal).
LA is huge! That's the only thing it has going for it. The majority of the city is very suburbanish. It's a concrete jungle but it's not the same type of in your face urbanity as a Baltimore or a Philly. LA has no answers for The East Coast Rowhouse!
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Looking around at these DC "TOD's", many of them have the metro station tucked away at one end of the "core". They look like places in which residents would drive the vast majority of the time, with the exception being when they go to work in another node or in downtown DC, and even then it would be interesting to see just how full the park and ride lots get.

Also that poster you are "debating" with is the king of tailoring the argument to suit DC, and I think just about everyone on this board knows it.

I asked for the same convenience of the city but out in the suburbs. Because these cities lack the metro system D.C. has, that is tailoring the argument for D.C.? I don't even know what you mean by the parking statement. There is no parking in Bethesda, Silver Spring, or the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor at metro stations. You can't drive to them.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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You can do that in Los Angeles as well. Maybe not to as many places but along the Red, Purple, Expo and Gold Lines it is quite easy.

Boston - also quite easy to get to Somerville, Brookline, Cambridge, Newton, Quincy.

DC has a great transit system but it is not that unique of a metro area.
Where can you do that from suburb to suburb in LA? All underground? Come out of the station in a vibrant semi urban setting?
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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All those pics are significantly more urban than Bethesda or Wheaton, though. I would live in these areas before Wheaton if I wanted a walkable, transit-oriented lifestyle (though to be honest neither option is ideal).

Those pics look like Landover, MD. How is it more urban than DT Bethesda or DT Silver Spring?
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