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Old 07-20-2012, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Your new population is 7.2M.

Why don't you just take the entire state of Delaware by adding Dover? It's similar to what Boston has done with Rhode Island.
Because I'm not asking for anymore than what rightfully belongs to Philly.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: The City
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Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA $352.7B
Reading, PA MSA $15.1B
Vineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ MSA $5.1B
Trenton-Ewing, NJ MSA $27.6B
Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ MSA $30.6B
Harrisburg-Carlisle, PA MSA $28.9B
Lebanon, PA MSA $3.9B
Lancaster, PA MSA $19.5B
York-Hanover, PA MSA $15.7B
Atlantic City-Hammonton, NJ MSA $13.3
Ocean City, NJ MSA $4B
Dover, DE MSA $6B
Gettysburg, PA µSA

Philadelphia has just reabsorbed Trenton from NYC, has just absorbed all of SoNJ, absorbed all of Delaware, and all of SE and East PA. It's population has surpassed Chicago to become the third largest metro in the US with 10.2M people and its economy is now the sixth largest behind NYC, LA, DC, the Bay, and Chicago.

Is this what you wanted summers?

realistically these are what I would consider a broader region, though some not in the metro. Oddly Mercer to me in a real life sense functions pretty close to what one might think a MSA Allentown is more rgional and lancaster etc to me would not be included and Dover

My own personal perspective on the region is highlighted above - population of about 7.8 million or so but in all honesty even as much as I grumble in the end living in the area affords the opportunities so to speak from the region regardless of where the census draws lines
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Moving past the hypothetical because its more than likely they wont ever come to fruitation its interesting to me that Boston has 100K more people than the bay but an economy that much smaller. The real standouts outside of the big 5 are Seattle and Houston. Detroit has 1M more people but an economy $30B smaller, Miami has 1.5M more people but an economy $5B smaller, and why stop there Seattle has its sights on Atlanta now. Boston has 1.4M population on Houston but only $26B larger economy and the lead will change by 2013.

Inside the big 5 the standout is the bay which isn't even a big 5 metro by population but creeps its way to 4th largest GMP!

GO WESTCOAST!

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Old 07-20-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Outside of this forum though, that sort of scrutiny and praise is pretty nonexistent.
Sorry I disagree, it goes beyond this forum and forums alike.

The Second-Rate City? by Aaron M. Renn, City Journal Spring 2012
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Outside of this forum though, that sort of scrutiny and praise is pretty nonexistent. GMP is just one of many factors that contribute to economic power, and GMP is also a poor indicator of personal wealth and standard of living. People on this forum put GMP/GDP on such a ridiculously high pedestal, it's pretty silly to be honest.
I agree, I find it pretty funny how much some people care and argue about this on C-D. But to each their own, it's understandable on this forum considering it attracts people with particular interests. Nobody outside of people and institutions with an interest in cities, planning, etc..would ever care about this. Has anyone ever discussed GDP with their friends in casual conversation? It's pretty funny what people care about on here as if that much of translates into most people giving a crap in real life.
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Here is the difference between these stats for this year and last year's GDP stat from bea.gov

Houston +$35.8 Billion
Dallas +$28 Billion
San Francisco +$24.6 Billion
Los Angeles +$21.6 Billion
Chicago + $14.6 Billion
Boston +$16.3 Billion
Washington DC +$12.1 Billion
Atlanta +$11.9 Billion
Seattle +$11.3 Billion
Minneapolis +$9.2 Billion
Philadelphia +$6.2 Billion
New York +$3 Billion
Miami +$2.7 Billion
Detroit +$800 Million
Says New Orleans grew 10 Billion from 70 to 80- skeptical, but would love to believe it's true.

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Old 07-20-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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Impressive growth for Houston ,Dallas, and San Francisco.
yeah, two of those economies are 'well oiled' so to speak. (pun intended )
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Some of these numbers are amazing, if you really look into them...

for instance: New Orleans, about 1.2 million people, GDP 80 billion

Kenner, LA: a suburb of about 75,000 people where the New Orleans airport is located. If you say that it has average per capita gdp (for New Orleans Metro) then it alone would have a GDP of 5 billion.

Kenner is no Valhalla, but that would give it an economy 3 times the entire country of Liberia at PPP.

North Korea would have the same output as Des Moines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_by_GDP_(PPP)

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Old 07-20-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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LA has the world's 3rd largest metro region economy behind Tokyo and New York, and LA a higher Per Capita GDP than Greater London and most everywhere outside the US.
This is why I say GDP and GDP per capita are important, but they are definitely not the be-all and end-all.

LA might have a higher GDP per capita than London, but London is about 1000 times more interesting than LA, IMHO. :-)
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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LA might have a higher GDP per capita than London, but London is about 1000 times more interesting than LA, IMHO. :-)
What's your point?
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