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Apart from ckthankgod, Im seeing the usual bellyaching--wouldnt it simply be easier to change the subject because the statements below are fact:
Furthermore, since this is a comparison of entire CSAs:
Non Hispanic White Population, 2011 New York-Newark-Bridgeport 51.7%
Litchfield, CT 90.9%
Sussex, NJ 88.5%
Hunterdon, NJ 87.3%
Ocean, NJ 85.6%
Putnam, NY 82.5%
Ulster, NY 81.4%
Monmouth, NJ 76.5%
Morris, NJ 74.4%
Dutchess, NY 74.2%
Suffolk, NY 71.0%
Orange, NY 67.7%
New Haven, CT 67.2%
Fairfield, CT 66.0%
Nassau, NY 64.8%
Rockland, NY 64.8%
Somerset, NJ 61.7%
Bergen, NJ 61.6%
Westchester, NY 56.9%
Mercer, NJ 54.1% Under 50% White Middlesex, NJ 48.5% Union, NJ 44.9% Passaic, NJ 44.8% Essex, NJ 33.5% New York City, NY 33.2% Hudson, NJ 30.9%
Non Hispanic White Population, 2011 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 42.9%
Marin, CA 72.7%
Sonoma, CA 65.7%
Santa Cruz, CA 59.0%
Napa, CA 55.6% Under 50% White Contra Costa, CA 47.3% San Mateo, CA 41.9% San Francisco, CA 41.8% Solano, CA 40.6% San Benito, CA 37.8% Santa Clara, CA 34.8% Alameda, CA 33.9%
Since when is having a minority white population a good thing? Only on C-D.
This is funny. "Statistics" can be used to show that ANY city trumps New York City. lol.
Of course statistics are meaningless if you dont know how to make sense of them. For example "minority household" is a pretty arbitrary and meaningless term. Change the definition to include religious minorities (which would include Jews who historically have faced a lot of discrimination) and see what results you will get in terms of per capita income and household wealth.
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, 2011 Census Estimate
White 51.1%
Hispanic 22.1%
Black 15.4%
Asian 9.2%
Multiracial 1.5%
American Indian 0.1%
Other Race 0.6%
Pacific Islander 0.0%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, 2011 Census Estimate
White 42.5%
Hispanic 24.4%
Asian 22.4%
Black 6.1%
Multiracial 3.4%
Pacific Islander 0.6%
American Indian 0.3%
Other Race 0.3%
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, 2011 Census Estimate
White 51.1%
Hispanic 22.1%
Black 15.4%
Asian 9.2%
Multiracial 1.5%
American Indian 0.1%
Other Race 0.6%
Pacific Islander 0.0%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, 2011 Census Estimate
White 42.5%
Hispanic 24.4%
Asian 22.4%
Black 6.1%
Multiracial 3.4%
Pacific Islander 0.6%
American Indian 0.3%
Other Race 0.3%
So overall, both are very diverse so good for them (or bad depending on the person). Did you see previous posts about diversity outside of just race and how the Tri-State area seems to have significantly more of that?
I'll be honest, we don't live in a perfect world. No where is utopia but I like the socioeconomic diversity of the Tristate area as it is now. I'm not saying that seeing poverty makes me happy and that I don't want improvements but we live in a world where socioeconomic barriers do exist. No where can be perfect, rich and poor are just two peas in the same pot.
The Tristate area does have more poverty but it's also a more diverse economy. It has some of the country's largest white collar and blue collar populations.
It is what it is, this is the reality we have to live with. I'm not so pleased to see this being used as a pro or con for either area. You make it sound like we are comparing Seattle to Laredo.
I'll be honest, we don't live in a perfect world. No where is utopia but I like the socioeconomic diversity of the Tristate area as it is now. I'm not saying that seeing poverty makes me happy and that I don't want improvements but we live in a world where socioeconomic barriers do exist. No where can be perfect, rich and poor are just two peas in the same pot.
The Tristate area does have more poverty but it's also a more diverse economy. It has some of the country's largest white collar and blue collar populations.
It is what it is, this is the reality we have to live with. I'm not so pleased to see this being used as a pro or con for either area. You make it sound like we are comparing Seattle to Laredo.
I think the important point is that being in the tri-state area isn't necessarily causing the socioeconomic diversity--it's only that there continue to be substantial employment and general supporting infrastructure which allow for continuing immigration of working class people rather than just the wealthy.
I also feel that NYC has rampantly on the street level has an incredible amount of things going on in what would be called the shadow economy. This isn't necessarily the obvious stuff of prostitution and drug dealing (though that of course exists), but in things like the huge number of counterfeit luxury consumer goods that get smuggled in and sold on Canal St in a strange relationship between recent Mainland China immigrants from parts of Fujian or Guangdong province and immigrants from both Francophone and Anglophone West African nations, the gigantic service/tourism industry with nightlife going up to 4 am with tips not counted and many businesses asking for cash only, the different ethnic communities livery services which aren't necessarily operating under the official Taxi and Limo Commission, the giant freelance network for various sorts of creative gigs that pay under the table, and a whole slew of other things. It's sort of amazing how this place runs.
but in things like the huge number of counterfeit luxury consumer goods that get smuggled in and sold on Canal St in a strange relationship between recent Mainland China immigrants from parts of Fujian or Guangdong province
You can even buy tiger cubs on Canal Street.
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A woman who shared a Harlem apartment with a 425-pound tiger said today she was terrified at first, but soon got used to living with the man-eater down the hall. Caroline Domingo told the New York Daily News she couldn't believe her eyes when she spotted the big cat roaming free in the apartment where she and her husband rented a room from tiger-owner Antoine Yates. But eventually, she said, "We all became family."
Did you see previous posts about diversity outside of just race and how the Tri-State area seems to have significantly more of that?
On a regional level from the standpoint of racial, ethnic and socio-economic diaspora, I highly doubt that since the Tri-State Area outside of NYC is 60% White.
I think the important point is that being in the tri-state area isn't necessarily causing the socioeconomic diversity--it's only that there continue to be substantial employment and general supporting infrastructure which allow for continuing immigration of working class people rather than just the wealthy.
If you're implying the Bay Area just attracts wealthy immigrants that's clearly wrong.
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I also feel that NYC has rampantly on the street level has an incredible amount of things going on in what would be called the shadow economy. This isn't necessarily the obvious stuff of prostitution and drug dealing (though that of course exists), but in things like the huge number of counterfeit luxury consumer goods that get smuggled in and sold on Canal St in a strange relationship between recent Mainland China immigrants from parts of Fujian or Guangdong province and immigrants from both Francophone and Anglophone West African nations, the gigantic service/tourism industry with nightlife going up to 4 am with tips not counted and many businesses asking for cash only, the different ethnic communities livery services which aren't necessarily operating under the official Taxi and Limo Commission, the giant freelance network for various sorts of creative gigs that pay under the table, and a whole slew of other things. It's sort of amazing how this place runs.
This sounds like pretty much any large city. You could easily say the same things about San Francisco and Los Angeles except for the later last call. The amount of places that are cash only in SF is actually quite annoying.
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