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One point of comparison that might be interesting is natural scenery. I think most people would be in agreement that the Bay Area is amazing in this regard while the Tri-State area isn't particularly well known for it. It would be fun for people to post pics of what would be beautiful natural areas for both metros to show what the differences are.
While NYC and the area have some great assets (especially to me so areas of the Hudson Valley, NW Jersey, and the beaches of Long Island and Jersey etc.) to me this a clear differentiator between the two. The Bay area has some of to me the most spectacular scenery in the country. The dramtic coastline, valleys etc. It to me looks like Italy a bit, which to me means gorgeous natural scenery.
While NYC and the area have some great assets (especially to me so areas of the Hudson Valley, NW Jersey, and the beaches of Long Island and Jersey etc.) to me this a clear differentiator between the two. The Bay area has some of to me the most spectacular scenery in the country. The dramtic coastline, valleys etc. It to me looks like Italy a bit, which to me means gorgeous natural scenery.
Yea, I think the natural assets of the tri-state area are greatly overlooked, but aren't as dramatic as those of the Bay Area. For those who love hiking and camping, the Bay Area definitely has a leg up.
Yea, I think the natural assets of the tri-state area are greatly overlooked, but aren't as dramatic as those of the Bay Area. For those who love hiking and camping, the Bay Area definitely has a leg up.
The problem is they are harder and longer to get to. SF has that kind of stuff within the city proper, and right over golden gate, and right south of the city. NYC urbanity goes on forever.
It never was except to you, yet you keep bringing it up as if someone actually ever contested those statements.
It's not contesting--it's how much emphasis is being placed on power and influence. Generally some of the posters here love this part of it and bulldoze over personal preferences to post these stats, but for some reason this isn't making much of an appearance in this topic.
It's not contesting--it's how much emphasis is being placed on power and influence. Generally some of the posters here love this part of it and bulldoze over personal preferences to post these stats, but for some reason this isn't making much of an appearance in this topic.
Which makes me wonder why you keep bringing it up if no one is discussing it. Kind seems like you're trying to start an argument that no one is arguing.
Which makes me wonder why you keep bringing it up if no one is discussing it. Kind seems like you're trying to start an argument that no one is arguing.
Yep, just funny how this stuff becomes irrelevant in this topic when it's otherwise such a draw in others about the Bay Area.
It's not contesting--it's how much emphasis is being placed on power and influence.
Speaking of influence, NYs Time Magazine says that Silicon Valley and New York City are both among the most influential places in the history of the world. The only 2 urbanized geographies in the US to be included in their list.
Oh, and btw the boundaries of Silicon Valley according to the Valley's most venerable publication has expanded:
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Originally Posted by San Jose Mercury News
After years of drawing a sharp circle that included Santa Clara County as well as southern San Mateo and Alameda counties, this newspaper is expanding the geographic boundaries that it considers to be part of Silicon Valley to include the five core Bay Area counties: Santa Clara, San Mateo, San Francisco, Alameda and Contra Costa. This is recognition, perhaps overdue, that the kinds of entrepreneurial companies and industries once tightly clustered in the South Bay can now be found throughout the region.
Anyway not even talking about San Jose, The SF MSA is the financial center of the entire Tech World(Sand Hill Rd in Menlo Park) and as far as influential companies is home to Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, LinkedIn, Oracle, Pandora, Pixar, Tesla and a host of other tech behemoths that are transforming the world as we speak.
Ultimately, The Bay Area has altered and is altering human interaction as we know it and honestly in 2012, Im not so sure that New York competes with NorCal as far as changing the world at present time.
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Metropolitan Areas(MSA) by number of patents granted, 2010 500+
1 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 10,074
2 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA 6,383
3 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 6,290
4 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 4,992
5 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 4,330
6 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 4,330
7 San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 2,993
7 Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 2,933
8 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 2,827
9 Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX 2,449
10 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 2,222
12 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 2,190
13 Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington, TX 2,189
14 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 2,102
15 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 1,758
16 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 1,748
17 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 1,656
18 Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ 1,339
19 Rochester, NY 1,273
20 Raleigh-Cary, NC 1,257
21 Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 991
22 Boise-Nampa, ID 948
23 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 923
24 Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY 825
25 Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO 754
26 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 751
27 Pittsburgh, PA 740
28 Albany-Schenetady-Troy, NY 736
29 St Louis, MO-IL 721
30 Baltimore-Towson, MD 711
31 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT 691
32 Bremerton-Silverdale, WA 608
33 Boulder, CO 599
34 Ann Arbor, MI 561
35 Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI 559
36 Burlington-South Burlington, VT 558
37 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 557
38 Kansas City, MO-KS 545
39 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA 530
40 Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA 514
Counties, 1,000+ patents granted in 2010
Santa Clara, CA 10,047
King, WA 3,637
San Diego, CA 2,993
Los Angeles, CA 2,817
Middlesex, MA 2,564
Alameda, CA 2,191
Orange, CA 2,175
Maricopa, AZ 1,314
Oakland, MI 1,276
Wake, NC 1,246
Cook, IL 1,118
Monroe, NY 1,110
Hennepin, MN 1,107
Williamson, TX 1,046
Top 100 websites in the World, Nov 3, 2012 Bay Area in Blue 1 Google 2 Facebook 3 YouTube 4 Yahoo
5 Baidu.com 6 Wikipedia
7 Windows Live 8 Twitter
9 QQ.com
10 Amazon.com 11 LinkedIn 12 Blogspot.com
13 Taobao.com 14 Google India 15 Yahoo Japan
16 sina.com.cn 17 Google Germany
18 MSN 19 Google Hong Kong
20 yandex.ru
21 WordPress.com
22 Bing
23 Google Japan 24 eBay 25 Google UK
26 Babylon 27 Google France
28 vk.com
29 Microsoft
30 weibo.com 31 googleusercontent.com
32 163.com
33 soso.com 34 apple.com
35 mail.ru
36 tumblr.com 37 Google Brasil 38 Pinterest 39 Google Spain 40 Paypal 41 Google Italy 42 Google Russia 43 Craigslist.org
44 xhamster.com 45 Blogger.com
46 sohu.com
47 fc2.com
48 go.com
49 imdb.com
50 bbc.co.uk
51 xvideos.com 52 Ask
53 youku.com
53 tmall.com 55 Google Mexico 56 Google Canada
57 hao123.com 58 Flickr
59 conduit.com
60 AVG
61 odnoklassniki.ru
62 ifeng.com
63 t.co
64 Tudou.com
65 CNN Interactive
66 LiveJasmine.com
67 Pornhub.com
68 The Pirate Bay
70 Amazon Japan 71 eBay Germany
72 Amazon Germany 73 Adobe Systems
74 ESPN
75 rakuten.co.jp 76 Google Indonesia 77 ZEDO 78 Blogspot India
79 Alibaba
80 adf.ly
81 The Huffington Post 82 Google Turkey
83 Stack Overflow
84 302 Found
85 RedTube 86 Google Australia
87 About.com 88 eBay UK
89 sougou.com
90 Amazon UK 91 Google Poland
92 Universo Online 92 Netflix
94 livedoor
95 360buy.com 96 Imgur 97 Instagram
98 Dailymotion
99 WordPress
100 Go Daddy
Web sites are pretty impressive and dominated by the Bay
though there are many other industries
Pharma for example
Top 20 Pharmaceutical Companies 1Pfizer : $44,174 (NYC and Philly) 2Sanofi-Aventis : $40,562 (Paris US Operations NY MSA) 3 GlaxoSmithKline : $37,810 (London US in Philly and RDU) 4Novartis : $35,647 (Basil US Operations in NY MSA) 5 AstraZeneca : $30,677 (London US Operations in Philly MSA) 6Merck : $25,901 (NY and Philly) 7Johnson & Johnson : $24,567 (NY and Philly) 8 Roche : $23,624 (Basil and SF for GENE) 9 Eli Lilly : $19,285 (Indianapolis) 10Bristol-Myers Squibb : $17,715 (NY) 11Wyeth : $17,391 (Philly now part of Pfizer) 12Schering-Plough : $16,534 (Now part of Merck NY) 13 Abbott Laboratories : $16,013 (Chicago) 14 Takeda : $13,841 (Japan and Chicago) 15Bayer Schering : $13,803 (Pharma in NY) 16 Boehringer Ingelheim : $13,405 (NY) 17 Teva : 10,482 (Isreal and US Operation in Philly) 18 Astellas : $9,646 (Chicago) 19 Daiichi-Sankyo : $7,900 (Japan and NY) 20 Eisai : $7,612 (Japan and NY)
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