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Old 11-04-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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Most Place in the Midwest have a generic accent IMO, but I'm from Detroit and I don't think I have a accent but who knows? what places do in the Midwest do you think have a distinctive accent with a exception St Louis and Minnesota
Random question, why are St. Louis and Minnesota (the whole state?) being singled out? They certainly aren't the only accents I can think of for the Midwest... The old SNL Chicago skits anyone?
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Bloomington and Champaign/Urbana in Illinois have fairly neutral accents, although those from Chicagoland would probably say a bit otherwise. If you cross over into Indiana you encounter a more twangy accent again, though.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:52 AM
 
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A bit of an inferiority complex maybe?
Nope. I've been accused of the opposite, but I can assure you I don't have an inferiority complex. What I do have is a degree in linguistics, and some insight into how language and dialect work. I'm not Noam Chomsky, but I know a little bit.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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Default cot/caught merger & the Northern Cities Shift...& more

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Most Place in the Midwest have a generic accent IMO, but I'm from Detroit and I don't think I have a accent but who knows? what places do in the Midwest do you think have a distinctive accent with a exception St Louis and Minnesota
"My linguistic illusions were shattered in college. In an introductory phonetics class I discovered that certain words that I had always pronounced the same way were supposed to be distinct. The words included pairs such as cot and caught and Don and dawn.

The Northern Cities Shift is heard across a broad swath of the Northern U.S. from Upstate New York throughout the Great Lakes region and westward into at least Minnesota. As its name suggests, it is most strongly rooted in large cities including Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago, but it is spreading beyond the urban centers into more rural areas."

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I was out west recently and I ran into so many people (I took a lot of taxis) from Milwaukee, Chicago, and similar places, and they all could tell right away that I was from the same area, and enjoyed talking about their midwest past."

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Nope. I've been accused of the opposite, but I can assure you I don't have an inferiority complex. What I do have is a degree in linguistics, and some insight into how language and dialect work. I'm not Noam Chomsky, but I know a little bit.
KC accent still does not sound neutral to my ear. However, localized differences are apparent depending on what area of the metro you're in and how urban/rural the location is. The speech patterns of the Ozarks region do come fairly close to KC and the southern tiers of the counties south of the metro definitely reflect this transition.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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Most Place in the Midwest have a generic accent IMO, but I'm from Detroit and I don't think I have a accent but who knows? what places do in the Midwest do you think have a distinctive accent with a exception St Louis and Minnesota
The accent of people in Detroit is a mixture of the Yooper accent and the Northern Cities Vowel shift (I.E. Rick Snyder or Debbie Stabenow).

The Yooper accent has become more pronounced around Detroit in recent years though. That's probably because Detroit doesn't see the inward migration is used to from other regions and because of transplants from the UP of Michigan.

You just don't notice it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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The accent of people in Detroit is a mixture of the Yooper accent and the Northern Cities Vowel shift (I.E. Rick Snyder or Debbie Stabenow).

The Yooper accent has become more pronounced around Detroit in recent years though. That's probably because Detroit doesn't see the inward migration is used to from other regions and because of transplants from the UP of Michigan.

You just don't notice it.
I would guess more migration would be from central and northern lower Michigan and other parts of the surrounding region more than the UP in absolute numbers. The UP represents a very small percentage of the total state population.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:38 AM
 
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KC accent still does not sound neutral to my ear. However, localized differences are apparent depending on what area of the metro you're in and how urban/rural the location is. The speech patterns of the Ozarks region do come fairly close to KC and the southern tiers of the counties south of the metro definitely reflect this transition.
"Mama's Family" took place in Raytown, MO, which is in the Kansas City area. The characters sounded more southern than I thought they would in that part of Missouri. I'm assuming it was exaggerated for TV though.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Cincinnati's "accent", as much as it has one (which is very subtle, possible linguistically non-existent), features more of the markers of what many might call "country" than KC. Words and constructs like "reckon", "plumb" as an averb, "might could", etc.

Kansas City speech is neither "twangy" nor "country" by any linguistic measure, though I'm sure that fits the St Louis narrative of "little country cousin KC". In point of fact, KC has no municipal dialect. People here speak the Central Midland dialect of American English, a speech pattern which is recognized as the nee plus ultra of American Received Pronunciation, aka, no accent.
Everyone has an accent.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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The accent of people in Detroit is a mixture of the Yooper accent and the Northern Cities Vowel shift (I.E. Rick Snyder or Debbie Stabenow).
This is a pretty good description of the Michigan accent in general. It has its own flavor. It does vary slightly as you travel around the state, though.
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