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My thoughts exactly. Chicago clearly had the title of "second city" But I doubt anyone outside of the upper Midwest truly believes that anymore since LA passed it like it was standing still. Whose to say Chicago could not fall as far as 4 or even lower.
Philadelphia used to be #1 then 2 for about a century, then 3 for 50 years after that. Times change. Doesn't really make a big difference to the average Philadelphian. Although it was the 2nd city for so long no one thinks of it as the 2nd city anymore. Chicago being the 2nd city will also eventually fade from public thought.
In fact we have twice the number of major cities than we did when Chicago was number 2. We have too many fine cities that are important for various things to worried about lining them up in a perfect linear faahion.
Another thing to keep in mind, Detroit gave Chicago just as strong a challenge in the 1st half of the last century as Los Angeles did. Times change.
My thoughts exactly. Chicago clearly had the title of "second city" But I doubt anyone outside of the upper Midwest truly believes that anymore since LA passed it like it was standing still. Whose to say Chicago could not fall as far as 4 or even lower.
The Second City moniker has many layers of meaning that don't necessarily have anything to do with population. Chicago will probably retain that nickname to many people across the country despite whatever its population may be.
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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No, Battery Park isn't landfill. It's part of the original island.
And Manhattan is one of the least susceptible parts of NYC to rising ocean levels. Manhattan has higher elevation than much of the rest of the region.
Nola101.... Again you are 100% wrong! This article explains how many times since the 1600s, Lower Manhattan was expanded by land fill. YES BATTERY PARK WAS CREATED ON LANDFILL.
Nola101.... Again you are 100% wrong! This article explains how many times since the 1600s, Lower Manhattan was expanded by land fill. YES BATTERY PARK WAS CREATED ON LANDFILL.
Steeps, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Battery Park is the oldest settled part of Manhattan island. In fact the Dutch built a fort on the land during the settlement of New Amsterdam
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As for Manhattan the LEAST susceptible to flooding.
Yes, Manhattan is one of the least susceptible parts of NYC to flooding and global ocean rise. It had very little flooding during Sandy compared to Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.
And Long Island and NJ are far worse. Manhattan only had two notable floods over the last century (which isn't surprising if you know Manhattan topography; most of the island is somewhat hilly).
And your linked article has nothing to do with anything on this thread.
It will be interesting to see the extent to which Houston will be affected by climate change, especially if their devastating floods this year are any indication of what's to come. I predict Houston will briefly surpass Chicago city (not metro), maybe for a few decades at most, before Mother Nature takes her toll on the former city. Chicago is in a much better position to adapt to climate change than Houston, for a number of reasons.
It will be interesting to see the extent to which Houston will be affected by climate change, especially if their devastating floods this year are any indication of what's to come. I predict Houston will briefly surpass Chicago city (not metro), maybe for a few decades at most, before Mother Nature takes her toll on the former city. Chicago is in a much better position to adapt to climate change than Houston, for a number of reasons.
But really they aren't that devastating. The media made it out to seem worse than what it really was. Seeing images of freeways underwater look dramatic but they are actually designed that way to keep the water away from the homes. The freeways dry out quickly enough and life gets back to normal as most people have car insurance. As for the homes that were flooded it did cause quite a bit of heartache but those people live close to the bayous and know that when they bought their homes. So of course they have insurance to cover it. People in Houston have gotten used to flooding just like people in Florida have gotten used to Hurricanes, Boston has gotten used to blizzards, San Francisco is used to earthquakes, Oklahoma City is used to tornadoes, and just about every major city is used to their natural disasters. This isn't a third world country. Our cities can bounce back pretty quickly from natural disasters.
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Battery Park City was created by landfill, Battery Park was not.
sorry for thinking Battery park city was Battery Park. But apparently There was a decent acreage added by landfill in Lower Manhattan the sight surly I found proves that. Apparently I am reading the sight wrong. I won't address another though after reading the fighting in a couple other threads. I'd be banned.
I lived in Houston for three years. It was hell on earth. The summers were unbearable. Unbearable really doesn't come close to describing the heat and humidity from June through September. The only months that were bearable were October and March. Winter in Houston is wierd. It can range from warm and sticky to damp and cold. I have never experienced such disgusting, never ending humidity anywhere, even Miami. People come there for jobs. There is no other meaningful reason to move to Houston. Chicago is cold, cold as hell at times, but we have seasons. Houston has two: Miserably hot and humid, and chilly and humid. Then there's the culture. Houston has museums, but not of the caliber and recognition of those in Chicago, Houston has good restaurants, but Chicago has recognized chefs and is recognized internationally for their cuisine. Chicago has festivals, Houston has an annual redneck drunken cow-wrestling rodeo. Houston traffic is 24/7 gridlock because they won't use public transit. Each man has to drive his own pick-up truck. Cars are a rarity. Trucks are the urban horse. Will Houston surpass Chicago in population? I doubt it. Houston's entire economy is based on the oil bidness. In 20 years or less, cars will rely more and more on alternative energy sources. Gasoline will become the dinosaur it once was. Without oil, Houston will join the ranks of so many other failed one industry cities.
I lived in Houston for three years. It was hell on earth. The summers were unbearable. Unbearable really doesn't come close to describing the heat and humidity from June through September. The only months that were bearable were October and March. Winter in Houston is wierd. It can range from warm and sticky to damp and cold. I have never experienced such disgusting, never ending humidity anywhere, even Miami. People come there for jobs. There is no other meaningful reason to move to Houston. Chicago is cold, cold as hell at times, but we have seasons. Houston has two: Miserably hot and humid, and chilly and humid. Then there's the culture. Houston has museums, but not of the caliber and recognition of those in Chicago, Houston has good restaurants, but Chicago has recognized chefs and is recognized internationally for their cuisine. Chicago has festivals, Houston has an annual redneck drunken cow-wrestling rodeo. Houston traffic is 24/7 gridlock because they won't use public transit. Each man has to drive his own pick-up truck. Cars are a rarity. Trucks are the urban horse. Will Houston surpass Chicago in population? I doubt it. Houston's entire economy is based on the oil bidness. In 20 years or less, cars will rely more and more on alternative energy sources. Gasoline will become the dinosaur it once was. Without oil, Houston will join the ranks of so many other failed one industry cities.
Oil has sooo many more uses than just gasoline. Hydrocarbons are some of THE most infinitely versatile and useful chemicals we've ever discovered.
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