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View Poll Results: New York City vs San Francisco
New York 310 56.36%
San Francisco 240 43.64%
Voters: 550. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-08-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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18Montclair:

"As far as quality of life, the Bay Area wins
easily.

And as far as combining world class urban
sophistication and amenities, incredible
natural beauty with a near perfect climate,
hyper diverse communities and a leading
world economy, nowhere in the world really
comes as close to that perfect combination
as the San Francisco Bay Area.

We can point at some places that have
some of the elements I described but no
where has all of the elements I described
like here.

Paris is great to visit, but to live, it's the Bay
Area all day, every day.
"


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But saying it twice doesn't magically make it any more persuasive. I don't think there's been any person save for a handful of other area boosters who have agreed with you, yet there are a stream of random people who do come in and disagree. You sound kind of crazy, really.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Yawns. Crazy=disagrees with the NYC-London-Paris worshippers and wont back down.

Sorry, Im not that impressed.

So post how my statement is wrong then:

As far as quality of life, the Bay Area wins
easily.

And as far as combining world class urban
sophistication and amenities, incredible
natural beauty with a near perfect climate,
hyper diverse communities and a leading
world economy, nowhere in the world really
comes as close to that perfect combination
as the San Francisco Bay Area.

We can point at some places that have
some of the elements I described but no
where has all of the elements I described
like here.

Paris is great to visit, but to live, it's the Bay
Area all day, every day.
Right, so you do believe writing it several times will make it more persuasive. It's fine, I guess most of the world are NYC-London-Paris worshippers?
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by LiveFrom215 View Post
18Montclair:

"As far as quality of life, the Bay Area wins
easily.

And as far as combining world class urban
sophistication and amenities, incredible
natural beauty with a near perfect climate,
hyper diverse communities and a leading
world economy, nowhere in the world really
comes as close to that perfect combination
as the San Francisco Bay Area.

We can point at some places that have
some of the elements I described but no
where has all of the elements I described
like here.

Paris is great to visit, but to live, it's the Bay
Area all day, every day.
"





https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=sX9xNn2f1Go
Yea, pretty much. Kind of pathologically awesome representation of the guy.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Right, so you do believe writing it several times will make it more persuasive. It's fine, I guess most of the world are NYC-London-Paris worshippers?
He wrote the same thing in the Paris vs San Francisco thread. Made no difference.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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He wrote the same thing in the Paris vs San Francisco thread. Made no difference.
And now like then, ZERO RESPONSE.

You asked a question, was slammed by the answer and then revert to fallacy when you cant respond.

Dont hate the player, hate the game.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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And now like then, ZERO RESPONSE.
I thought the responses were in the votes and the posters who said they'd rather live in Paris.

Sorry Monty. The world's just not that into you.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Right, so you do believe writing it several times will make it more persuasive?
The fact that you refuse to respond PROVES that it's persuasive.

So are we done here?
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:50 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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And now like then, ZERO RESPONSE.

You asked a question, was slammed by the answer and then revert to fallacy when you cant respond.

Dont hate the player, hate the game.
No he wasn't. Saying everyone who disagreeing is losing while presenting no argument other than your opinion is a fallacy.

I actually like the Bay Area, probably more than most of the posters here. But your skewed arguments, singular focus on affluence, just over the top homerism feels like an argument against the Bay Area to my ears.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:51 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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The fact that you refuse to respond PROVES that it's persuasive.
It proves nothing. It could signify he doesn't believe it merits a response.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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To some degree I can see the argument that the average citizen of SF does in fact lead a slightly higher QOL. They could have better jobs on the average, bigger house, more disposable income, etc.. However, that doesn't mean that SF is automatically a better city. The more time I spend in cities, I realize that the more interesting parts of the cities are usually around the rough edges. NYC's rough edges in particular are just so fascinating to me. Also the neverending-ness of it all really seperates the two cities for me. I really want to go to a show at the Palace of Fine Arts, and I will one day. The friends I have out there love SF and North California, as I think most people would. I think the average American would pick SF over NYC, but to city dwellers like myself and most of us on here, NYC is hard to top if someone offered you a job with good compensation.

As for saying one city is more "cultural" than the other is an interesting question, and really comes down to what you are looking for. As the science ficition genre has taught us (and the Nazi's), a homogeneous population and society is not something we should strive to becoming. In that sense, I prefer the diversity of races and professions in NYC more than a city like SF that is so heavily dominated by a select few industries.

SF's chokehold on the tech industry is beginning to fade as more of the rest of the world is gaining internet access. The tech industry domestically is spreading across a ton of cities, with startups trying to make their cities the next bay area. Just was reading an article about how in India, they are creating a massive tech industry with a lot of workers not being able to acquire US Visas and opting to start their own companies.

While a high QOL is important it is somewhat disappointing how expensive cost of living has become in both places. Would Bob Sagat and the Olson twins been priced out of their house considering they relied on a single income to support a whole family?
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