2012: MSA/CSA International Immigration Stats (living, people, Boston, Chicago)

[nature's message]

Does the US Census include Arabs in the Asian demographic, or does "Asian" only refer to East Asians? If such is the case, it would be interesting to see where Arabs are immigrating to.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

DC is already tops on immigration from Africa.
ATL does extremely well here.
DFW I think Passed Houston, and Both passed Chicago and Detroit (Think both are really close to LA's African numbers)

DFW actually passed Houston long ago in African immigration. Houston has not had more immigrants from Africa compared to DFW in at least 10 years. The African immigration numbers have not really changed much YOY in many years. It fluctuates some, but its been pretty constant. Houston always wins out in Nigerians though.

To me the most impressive think about Houston's immigration patterns relative to its peers is the ability to pull large numbers from all over Latin America.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Speaking of African immigrants, any insight on Columbus, OH? It punches very high above its weight in African Immigrants. Its almost up there with Chicago!

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Houston is push on par with the western cities for Asians. It passed SD last decade and should be dead even with Seattle in total asian population.

With regards to foreign born Asians, DFW has more than San Diego right now, but in terms of Asian population total, San Diego has more. I think that will probably be different by 2020 though.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by justme02

DFW actually passed Houston long ago in African immigration. Houston has not had more immigrants from Africa compared to DFW in at least 10 years. The African immigration numbers have not really changed much YOY in many years. It fluctuates some, but its been pretty constant. Houston always wins out in Nigerians though.

To me the most impressive think about Houston's immigration patterns relative to its peers is the ability to pull large numbers from all over Latin America.

I know that DFW had passed HOuston in the yearly African totals but was not certain if it Had passed it in the total African born population.

How are they in relation to Detroit and LA.
Last I remember Detroit was ahead of Houston by about 1K and ahead of DFW by about 3K. But that was really old numbers.

I am thinking that both are in the top 6 or 7 now. Can Only think of DC, NY, ATL and MSP having more African borns

Yeah. Houston does fairly well with Latin America:

The largest populations of Bolivians are situated in the following areas (Source: Census 2010):
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA - 37,607
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA - 9,749
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA - 7,068
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA - 6,697
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA - 2,359
Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI MSA - 2,099
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA - 2,078
Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA MSA - 1,970
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA - 1,223
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH MSA - 1,170

The largest populations of Chilean Americans are situated in the following urban areas:
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA - 20,688
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA - 17,161
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA - 10,471
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA - 6,963
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA - 4,000
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH MSA - 2,622
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA - 2,570
Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI MSA - 2,454
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA - 2,066
Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA - 1,884
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA - 1,779
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA - 1,776
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA - 1,730
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA - 1,686
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA - 1,505

The largest population of Costa Ricans are situated in the following areas (Source: Census 2010):
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA - 27,394
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA - 11,528
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA - 11,371
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA - 3,207
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA - 3,125
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA - 2,717
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA - 2,617
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA - 2,433
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA - 2,372
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH MSA - 2,330
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA - 2,321
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA - 2,296
Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA - 2,292
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT MSA - 2,025
Trenton-Ewing, NJ MSA - 1,801

The top 25 US communities with the highest populations of Guatemalans (Source: Census 2010) (This one seems low)
Los Angeles, CA - 138,139
New York, NY - 30,420
Houston, TX - 25,205
Chicago, IL - 17,973
Providence, RI - 11,930
Trenton, NJ - 8,691
Stamford, CT - 7,707
Phoenix, AZ - 6,722
San Francisco, CA - 6,154
San Rafael, CA - 5,895
Lynn, MA - 5,715
Oakland, CA - 5,223
Long Beach, CA - 5,134
Langley Park, MD - 5,029
Boston, MA - 4,451
Lake Worth, FL - 4,432
Plainfield, NJ - 4,302
Oklahoma City, OK - 4,256
Dallas, TX - 4,238
Miami, FL - 4,135

The largest population of Hondurans are situated in the following areas (Source: Census 2010):
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA - 97,854
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA - 74,357
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA - 53,598
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA - 46,044
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA - 37,665
New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA MSA - 25,112
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA - 18,063
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA - 16,489
Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI MSA - 11,675
Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH MSA - 10,869

(Ok I found my mistake. This is city not metro)

The top 25 US communities with the highest populations of Mexicans (Source: Census 2010)
Los Angeles, CA - 1,209,573
San Antonio, TX - 705,530
Houston, TX - 673,093
Chicago, IL - 578,100
Phoenix, AZ - 519,635
El Paso, TX - 486,186
Dallas, TX - 439,460
San Diego, CA - 325,812
New York, NY - 319,263
San Jose, CA - 268,538

The largest population of Nicaraguans are situated in the following areas (Source: Census 2010):
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA - 118,768
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA - 40,607
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA - 30,807
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA - 17,987
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA - 14,187
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA - 9,793
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA - 9,496
New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA MSA - 5,310
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA - 4,540
Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA - 4,083
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA - 3,964
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA - 3,719
Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA - 3,587
Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA - 3,269
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA - 3,163

The largest population of Panamanians are situated in the following areas (Source: Census 2010):
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA - 29,619
Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA - 13,529
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA - 7,322
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA - 6,353
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA - 5,599
Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA - 4,234
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA - 3,772
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA - 3,350
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA - 3,162
Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA - 2,841

[KodeBlue]

What are the numbers for Baltimore?

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by justme02

With regards to foreign born Asians, DFW has more than San Diego right now, but in terms of Asian population total, San Diego has more. I think that will probably be different by 2020 though.

I thought I read somewhere that DFW had passed SD in total Asian Population somewhere last decade.


Edit: Found the following:
Dallas FW 341,000
San Diego 336,000

America's Asian Population Patterns 2000-2010

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by justme02

Speaking of African immigrants, any insight on Columbus, OH? It punches very high above its weight in African Immigrants. Its almost up there with Chicago!

It has a high Somalian population, similar to Minneapolis. I don't really know how exactly it got started, but it seems that they keep coming because of the already large population and they want to be near immigrants like themselves.

[sofla951]

Originally Posted by valentro

However to your arguments concerning South America, Europe, Asia, and Africa. It's a well documented fact that immigration from Asia dwarfs that of South America, Africa, Oceania, or Europe, more immigrants from there than those four COMBINED by far, so saying Miami gets more Asians than Houston "gets" of anything else is patently untrue considering there are over 400,000 Asians immigrating to the country and 80,000 South Americans even a small share of 400,000 would give more in raw numbers than what it would for South America.

There isn't a particularly set tone in bashing in this thread as of yet but if you consider what's been said as bashing earlier then I'm actually quite surprised Houston posters haven't retaliated with your Orlando statement since you fired right on back. In total immigration there are 9 cities between Houston and Orlando, 9 American cities, as well as the fact that it only brings in a third of the total immigrants.

It's true Asia is a much larger feed than Europe, SA, and Africa, but the fact Miami (and New York) completely dominate SA and NA outside of Mexico is not to be diminished. Wouldn't this make Miami more unique since Asian immigration is becoming much more prevalent throughout the US, while NA and SA is dominated by mainly two cities? My point stands Miami's Asian immigration may be weaker but it still greater than Houston's from anywhere else in absolute numbers save Mexico and Asia and there's no disputing that fact. Thus Miami has a larger Asian immigration than Houston has from SA, Europe, NA (save Mexicans), and Africa. The fact about Orlando stands Miami and Houston have there strength and weaknesses, but if you took out there strengths Miami (Western hemisphere) or Houston (Asia/Mexico) they would be about the same. Even then Miami in total is still much stronger, its not far from Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta combined.

[Trafalgar Law]

Originally Posted by sofla951

It's true Asia is a much larger feed than Europe, SA, and Africa, but the fact Miami (and New York) completely dominate SA and NA outside of Mexico is not to be diminished. Wouldn't this make Miami more unique since Asian immigration is becoming much more prevalent throughout the US, while NA and SA is dominated by mainly two cities?

Possibly yes, as an anomaly definitely does, especially for a large metropolitan.

Uniqueness comes from what the existing community makes of their new home, what they offer in terms of culture, food, clothing, influence, so on. Miami has plenty of that, it's rightfully famed for it's all out Latino culture.

Immigration from everywhere varies based on job prospects and geography.

Originally Posted by sofla951

My point stands Miami's Asian immigration may be weaker but it still greater than Houston's from anywhere else in absolute numbers save Mexico and Asia and there's no disputing that fact.

You're looking at raw numbers, like I said Asians have more immigrants into the United States in raw numbers than Europe, South America, Africa, and Oceania all combined. Getting large raw numbers while still not being a "hub" isn't particularly difficult, for anywhere.

When you look at percentages Miami got 1% of the Asian immigrants of the United States total for 2012, Houston got 2.8 of the South Americans of the United States total and I still wouldn't argue either which way. It just is what it is. Since in raw numbers only 80,000 South Americans immigrated into the country, the 2,300 or so from Houston spells a larger percentage they received than the 4,200 or so Miami received of the total 420,000 something America got total.

Originally Posted by sofla951

The fact about Orlando stands Miami and Houston have there strength and weaknesses, but if you took out there strengths Miami (Western hemisphere) or Houston (Asia/Mexico) they would be about the same.

Well this is where I actually do disagree with you and everyone else making this same argument, including HtownLove.

There shouldn't be taking anything out or at all, things are what they are. People from Mexico or Canada or where ever are still people, there is no geographic preference for whom we should include or exclude in our arguments. It's one thing to move from New York to New Mexico, an entirely different stratosphere going from a country as culturally different as Mexico to Chicago.

Either which way, like I already said, Miami is just in it's own tier for immigration. I think most would agree it's higher than places like Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Washington, Bay Area, where ever and right below Los Angeles and New York.

The comparison to Orlando is a far stretch, I don't think anyone will willingly accept Seattle, Philadelphia, San Diego, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Boston as a peer of the place (Orlando), there's not much remotely cosmopolitan about it other than it hitting above it's medium sized American city size bracket. My usual cut off is places 20,000 or more for total immigrants, in retrospect a figure of 200,000 people a decade is healthy for any larger metropolitan (5 million or more) of any size.

Below that, in my opinion, a place is under-achieving.