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Old 08-21-2013, 02:07 AM
 
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Hello everyone,

I have narrowed my relocation options down to several U.S. cities. First, a little bit about myself. I am a 25 year old caucasian male of Irish/Polish heritage, presently finishing my final year of law school. My undergraduate background is in Criminal Justice. My career will involve a middle class salary working for the state. Therefore, my list is centered around lower costs of living as well as a cooler climate. I simply am accustomed to colder weather (raised in Buffalo, NY) and I can't tolerate extremely warm/hot areas. If cost of living were not an issue I would be moving to Northern VA near D.C. as I love it there. However, that just does not seem realistic as I would like a house and a family eventually.

The most important thing to me right now I would have to say is the dating scene. I like bars/casual lounges and do not do the club scene. I have lived in some cities where the women will approach me (Grand Rapids, MI and Indianapolis, IN) and some cities where I didn't seem to exist (St. Pete, FL and Huntington, WV). So, the quality of the girls/people is of utmost importance. I think people carry themselves in their own unique way wherever I have been. The more outgoing, friendly, less cliquey/snobby the better.

I also love hockey, football and live music. A city with a quality sports/music scene is important. Sports and music are a great thing to enjoy with friends and family.

My list has been narrowed down to the following cities. I have ranked them in the order of what seems the best on paper in what I a'm looking for. The only larger, cooler, affordable U.S. cities I tossed out really were in Ohio and Pittsburgh. I'm sorry I just don't like either as they are too close to Appalachia for my liking. Any insight and rankings of these cities from you all would be much appreciated.

1. MINNEAPOLIS-ST. PAUL-concerns...I have read a lot of accusations that people tend to be aloof. I have read that non swede/norwegians are treated as outsiders.

2. DENVER-concerns...high hipster pot head population I have been told...I have also been told by a few people that the girls are manly and do not do themselves up at all. The Menver label is also concerning. I have also been told that my hair will look bad all the time due to the the dry climate.

3. MANCHESTER, NH-an hour from Boston sounds amazing but is it too expensive?

4. INDIANAPOLIS-I have been to Indy, a very under rated city. I was very impressed.

5. GRAND RAPIDS, MI-I have lived here as well. A wonderful place to live but on the small side.

6. NASHVILLE-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

7. Charlotte-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

8. Raleigh-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

9. MILWAUKEE-concerns-I've been told its boring?
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Hello everyone,

I have narrowed my relocation options down to several U.S. cities. First, a little bit about myself. I am a 25 year old caucasian male of Irish/Polish heritage, presently finishing my final year of law school. My undergraduate background is in Criminal Justice. My career will involve a middle class salary working for the state. Therefore, my list is centered around lower costs of living as well as a cooler climate. I simply am accustomed to colder weather (raised in Buffalo, NY) and I can't tolerate extremely warm/hot areas. If cost of living were not an issue I would be moving to Northern VA near D.C. as I love it there. However, that just does not seem realistic as I would like a house and a family eventually.

The most important thing to me right now I would have to say is the dating scene. I like bars/casual lounges and do not do the club scene. I have lived in some cities where the women will approach me (Grand Rapids, MI and Indianapolis, IN) and some cities where I didn't seem to exist (St. Pete, FL and Huntington, WV). So, the quality of the girls/people is of utmost importance. I think people carry themselves in their own unique way wherever I have been. The more outgoing, friendly, less cliquey/snobby the better.

I also love hockey, football and live music. A city with a quality sports/music scene is important. Sports and music are a great thing to enjoy with friends and family.

My list has been narrowed down to the following cities. I have ranked them in the order of what seems the best on paper in what I a'm looking for. The only larger, cooler, affordable U.S. cities I tossed out really were in Ohio and Pittsburgh. I'm sorry I just don't like either as they are too close to Appalachia for my liking. Any insight and rankings of these cities from you all would be much appreciated.

1. MINNEAPOLIS-ST. PAUL-concerns...I have read a lot of accusations that people tend to be aloof. I have read that non swede/norwegians are treated as outsiders.

2. DENVER-concerns...high hipster pot head population I have been told...I have also been told by a few people that the girls are manly and do not do themselves up at all. The Menver label is also concerning. I have also been told that my hair will look bad all the time due to the the dry climate.

3. MANCHESTER, NH-an hour from Boston sounds amazing but is it too expensive?

4. INDIANAPOLIS-I have been to Indy, a very under rated city. I was very impressed.

5. GRAND RAPIDS, MI-I have lived here as well. A wonderful place to live but on the small side.

6. NASHVILLE-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

7. Charlotte-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

8. Raleigh-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?


9. MILWAUKEE-concerns-I've been told its boring?
These two are definite "yes" answers. Both Charlotte and Raleigh have more transplants from the North than originates from the South.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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Based off your interests:
Hockey:
Minneapolis (NHL, College Hockey, and the best high school hockey in the country)
Denver (NHL and college hockey)
Manchester (NHL, college hockey and solid high school hockey)

Football:
Toss up

Music:
Nashville (Nashville is probably in the top 5 for music scenes)
Minneapolis (Minneapolis is another top music scene. It has an amazing local scene and majority of bands will hit Minneapolis on their first tour)
Denver (Denver is respectable as it has a decent local scene and attracts a lot touring acts)

Dating:
Minneapolis and Denver as they have more people within your age range and offer much more than the other cities / metros listed.

Overall, you can't go wrong with Minneapolis or Denver. IMO, the others are a bit too stale.

BTW, Norwegians and Swedes aren't even the top two ethnic groups in the Minneapolis - St. Paul area. People reporting Irish as their first ancestry actually outnumber Swedes so, no need to be concerned.

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Old 08-21-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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Personally, I don't believe Yankees can fit in down South. I've spent time living in Charleston, Raleigh and Atlanta. Once people hear your accent, you're immediately shunned. Yes, Southern Hospitality does exist, but it mainly applies to other Southerners. They don't like people from the North invading their territory. This dates back to the Civil War.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Minneapolis/MN has a moderate Polish population. I'd know, I'm part Polish. It's nothing like Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee or New York but it's certainly there.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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Hello everyone,

I have narrowed my relocation options down to several U.S. cities. First, a little bit about myself. I am a 25 year old caucasian male of Irish/Polish heritage, presently finishing my final year of law school. My undergraduate background is in Criminal Justice. My career will involve a middle class salary working for the state. Therefore, my list is centered around lower costs of living as well as a cooler climate. I simply am accustomed to colder weather (raised in Buffalo, NY) and I can't tolerate extremely warm/hot areas. If cost of living were not an issue I would be moving to Northern VA near D.C. as I love it there. However, that just does not seem realistic as I would like a house and a family eventually.

The most important thing to me right now I would have to say is the dating scene. I like bars/casual lounges and do not do the club scene. I have lived in some cities where the women will approach me (Grand Rapids, MI and Indianapolis, IN) and some cities where I didn't seem to exist (St. Pete, FL and Huntington, WV). So, the quality of the girls/people is of utmost importance. I think people carry themselves in their own unique way wherever I have been. The more outgoing, friendly, less cliquey/snobby the better.

I also love hockey, football and live music. A city with a quality sports/music scene is important. Sports and music are a great thing to enjoy with friends and family.

My list has been narrowed down to the following cities. I have ranked them in the order of what seems the best on paper in what I a'm looking for. The only larger, cooler, affordable U.S. cities I tossed out really were in Ohio and Pittsburgh. I'm sorry I just don't like either as they are too close to Appalachia for my liking. Any insight and rankings of these cities from you all would be much appreciated.

1. MINNEAPOLIS-ST. PAUL-concerns...I have read a lot of accusations that people tend to be aloof. I have read that non swede/norwegians are treated as outsiders.

2. DENVER-concerns...high hipster pot head population I have been told...I have also been told by a few people that the girls are manly and do not do themselves up at all. The Menver label is also concerning. I have also been told that my hair will look bad all the time due to the the dry climate.

3. MANCHESTER, NH-an hour from Boston sounds amazing but is it too expensive?

4. INDIANAPOLIS-I have been to Indy, a very under rated city. I was very impressed.

5. GRAND RAPIDS, MI-I have lived here as well. A wonderful place to live but on the small side.

6. NASHVILLE-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

7. Charlotte-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

8. Raleigh-concerns-can a Yankee fit in or be accepted here?

9. MILWAUKEE-concerns-I've been told its boring?
Milwaukee is much more interesting than Indianapolis.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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1. MINNEAPOLIS-ST. PAUL-concerns...I have read a lot of accusations that people tend to be aloof. I have read that non swede/norwegians are treated as outsiders.
Nah, that's not true. People really don't ask you what your ancestry is anyways. Plus, I'm partially Polish and it has absolutely no effect on anything I do or the people I am around.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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