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View Poll Results: If this city consolidated, it would be on another level
Detroit-Wayne County Merger 12 19.05%
Atlanta-Fulton County Merger 7 11.11%
St Louis-St Louis County Merger 15 23.81%
Houston-Harris County Merger 2 3.17%
Chicago-Cook County Merger 7 11.11%
Los Angeles-LA County Merger 11 17.46%
San Diego-San Diego County Merger 0 0%
Memphis-Shelby County Merger 0 0%
Charlotte-Mecklenburg County Merger 1 1.59%
Las Vegas -Clark County Merger 0 0%
Seattle-King County Merger 1 1.59%
Austin-Travis County Merger 1 1.59%
Miami-Dade County Merger 6 9.52%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-17-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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That is nuts.
One of them has 77 people. (fixed)

Pennsylvania and New Jersey have by far the worse history regarding allowing tiny municipalities to incorporate of anywhere in the country.

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Old 05-17-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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One of them has 84 people. IIRC

Pennsylvania and New Jersey have by far the worse history regarding allowing tiny municipalities to incorporate of anywhere in the country.
True statement. Eschaton what place has 84? Because I know Haysville on the Ohio river has 77 people and Glenfield next to it has 236.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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True statement. Eschaton what place has 84? Because I know Haysville on the Ohio river has 77 people and Glenfield next to it has 236.
I was thinking about Haysville. Misremembered it seems.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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True statement. Eschaton what place has 84? Because I know Haysville on the Ohio river has 77 people and Glenfield next to it has 236.
Gosnold, Massachusetts has 75 people.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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We are the opposite over here. Big counties with very few cities.

Loving county for example has zero cities, it just has one community with about 79 people. The population density is about 0.099 ppsm or one person per every ten square miles. Now that's privacy
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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I'm not sure what you mean...

Wayne County has 1.8 Million people. That would put Detroit above Philadelphia, which is in 6th place.
If Detroit-Wayne County were to merge, cities such as Dearborn and Livonia would remain independent, and not be counted towards the total. Detroit wouldn't have 1.8 million. It would have about 1 million. Most of the county population is already incorporated.
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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If Detroit-Wayne County were to merge, cities such as Dearborn and Livonia would remain independent, and not be counted towards the total. Detroit wouldn't have 1.8 million. It would have about 1 million. Most of the county population is already incorporated.
Last I checked, the suburbs of Dearborn and Livonia are still a part of Wayne County.

If there was a County-City a merger, they can't NOT be a part of the merger. That's not how it works. It doesn't matter if the land is incorporated or not.

Besides, this is all completely hypothetical. Detroit becoming a super city is merely a pipe dream of mine (I expect pigs to fly before that happens).
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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Last I checked, the suburbs of Dearborn and Livonia are still a part of Wayne County.

If there was a County-City a merger, they can't NOT be a part of the merger. That's not how it works. It doesn't matter if the land is incorporated or not.

Besides, this is all completely hypothetical. Detroit becoming a super city is merely a pipe dream of mine (I expect pigs to fly before that happens).
I don't think you understand how this works, exactly.

I live in a city that has consolidated with the county. There are other cities in the county that have their own governments, and are NOT part of the population total for the "city."

Essentially what you have is the county population, minus the other independent municipalities. That's why in many cases, it is referred to as the "balance" population.

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Unless Dearborn, Livonia, and all the rest either elect to surrender their charters, or were forced to do so by the state of Michigan (which I highly doubt would happen), then they would count towards the population total of Wayne County only, not Detroit-Wayne County. The "balance" population is what is used for the official population rank, so again, Detroit would move to 10th. For now.
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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I always thought Miami and Dade County were already consolidated, but I looked it up and apparently Dade County only added "Miami" to its name. It's rather bizarre, I think:

Miami-Dade County, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I always did like the name "Metro-Dade" myself. They should've stuck with that.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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For the Most part which ever city is helped the most, the rest of the county is hurt the most, because combining City-County does not actually do anything to help the situation, just changes the area in which you measure.
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