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Keep in mind it really depends on where you go in the world... just remember - There are PLENTY of statistics that prove Toronto IS the most visited city by International tourists in Canada... period so these numbers count more than the speculation or the opinions of some CD posters.
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Maybe I should not have certainly but this has almost always been my personal observation. I will be spending much of the summer abroad (overseas) again this year so will try to keep an ear open again.
Additionally - a lot of people use Toronto as a portal for Niagara falls and take part in things like our many high profile festivals and theatre arts scene - can anyone say TIFF...plus Toronto has a hugely multicultural tapestry that no Canadian city matches - meaning families around the world in countries spanning over 200 dialects are linked to it..... how this is shocking to anyone is well.. shocking
Keep in mind it really depends on where you go in the world... just remember - There are PLENTY of statistics that prove Toronto is the most visited city by International tourists in Canada... period so these numbers count more than the speculation or opinion of some CD posters.
Fusion2, how fast is the city of Toronto, The DT and the metro growing per year in raw numbers? Any super talls above 1000 feet proposed or under construction?
The Greater Toronto Area consistently adds between 100000 to 110000 people per year (as the Immigration hub of Canada 43 percent of all Canada's immigrants) - The city proper i'm not sure but since the city proper is approximately 35 to 40 percent of the GTA than it would be fair to say approximately 35-40K per year.
The tallest building that has just been completed in 2012 is 908 ft so not supertall but not too far off..
There are currently 17 buildings under construction > 500 ft
There are 3 supertalls proposed > 1000 ft, 6 between 800-1000 ft and 9 between 650 and 800 ft - nobody cares about anything proposed that is less than 650 ft apparently... I'd say by the looks of it Toronto won't be building as many 400-600 ft buildings as it has been due to a cooling down of the condo market so not as many scrapers but the smaller number it will build will skew taller than those that have been built during the peak. This will bode well for our skyline actually as we have no shortage of buildings between 400-600 ft and the DT core is already dense enough with 400-600 ft infill... Only Toronto, New York city and Chicago can have the audacity to say such a thing in North America..
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Fusion2, how fast is the city of Toronto, The DT and the metro growing per year in raw numbers? Any super talls above 1000 feet proposed or under construction?
It really depends on how you look at it and I know it seems like a brutal thing to say but if you want an urban area that attracts types of layers in society that will contribute to a strong and balanced arts and cultural scene and urban renewal as opposed to decay, gentrification isn't a bad thing. Having a disproportionately large number of perpetual drunks, drug addicts and mental health profiles or people who aren't those things but simply can't afford to support any type of arts and cultural scene or even balanced commercial areas will not be places that are going to attract people who will reinforce healthy urbanity.
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Why so? Do you not think these people deserve to live there?
Keep in mind it really depends on where you go in the world... just remember - There are PLENTY of statistics that prove Toronto IS the most visited city by International tourists in Canada... period so these numbers count more than the speculation or the opinions of some CD posters.
I have been talking about US visitors specifically.
It really depends on how you look at it and I know it seems like a brutal thing to say but if you want an urban area that attracts types of layers in society that will contribute to a strong and balanced arts and cultural scene and urban renewal as opposed to decay, gentrification isn't a bad thing. Having a disproportionately large number of perpetual drunks, drug addicts and mental health profiles or people who aren't those things but simply can't afford to support any type of arts and cultural scene or even balanced commercial areas will not be places that are going to attract people who will reinforce healthy urbanity.
They are working class immigrants, not schizophrenics. There's a difference.
Why so? Do you not think these people deserve to live there?
Sure they deserve to live there but they will forever keep the area's subpar and undesirable. LA isn't going to attract that many people that aren't in that ethnic group to the area. I just always notice when *some* pictures of urban LA are posted, it basically looks like somebody photoshopped a built up area and mixed it with the hood at street level. You don't see this in other global cities. DT and surroundings are prime real estate. Nobody with means is going to choose to live there. Don't start off the whole PC stuff...let's be real.
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