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Old 07-08-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Los Angeles
San Diego
Seattle
Phoenix
San Francisco
Boston
Miami
Chicago
Washington DC
Houston
New York
Philly
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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Seattle
Chicago
San Francisco
New York
San Diego
Washington
Los Angeles (at night)
Boston
Miami
Houston (at night)
Phoenix (at night)
Los Angeles/Houston/Phoenix (day)
Philadelphia

Street level. Difference between San Francisco and Seattle is the street level dirtiness of San Francisco takes some away from it but I cant see it being below a top 4-5.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New York
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Only city proper, and we are talking beauty, not necessarily cleanliness/dirtiness.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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Only city proper, and we are talking beauty, not necessarily cleanliness/dirtiness.
Cleanliness and dirtiness add to how beautiful a city can or will look.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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Cleanliness and dirtiness add to how beautiful a city can or will look.
Agreed. You can take a beautiful backyard and if one day it's spotless and then the other days it as five pieces of litter on it, which day do you think it will look more beautiful?
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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New York
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Chicago
Seattle
Miami
San Diego
Phoenix
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington DC
Houston
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Agreed. You can take a beautiful backyard and if one day it's spotless and then the other days it as five pieces of litter on it, which day do you think it will look more beautiful?
Yeah exactly.

The fact that Boston, Washington, and especially Chicago look like cities that invest several hundred million dollars to up-keeping their cleanliness on a day to day basis has the result for how pristine clean (and in addition, beautiful) they look. Manhattan itself does a pretty spectacular job at looking nifty clean and gleaming these days. Beauty is mostly aesthetics and scenery, it's possible to prefer one to the other in some arguments.

San Francisco is built in a gorgeous setting with gorgeous architecture, if they can up-keep better, then no doubts but aesthetically the litter takes a small toll. Which is where Seattle takes the one up, since it has both and up-keeps well. Again, talking from what is seen at street level. Experience varies from the vista of the Twin Peaks.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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Cleanliness and dirtiness add to how beautiful a city can or will look.

Thats only one aspect though.

This isnt simply about whats clean and what isnt. Its about beauty, which is what his point was. I dont think he disagrees that clean/dirty cant tie into beauty.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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Thats only one aspect though.

This isnt simply about whats clean and what isnt. Its about beauty, which is what his point was. I dont think he disagrees that clean/dirty cant tie into beauty.
I used to the word add, to describe the relation of cleanliness/dirtiness of a place in regards to beauty.

Is that different in context from it being only one aspect?

To his point though, he meant city propers, which is all I made a basis on in the first place. Nor did I say how clean a place is determines how beautiful is, my own list is hacked with Seattle first and a city with little to no scenery second and then San Francisco. Aesthetically, Seattle in my opinion has it all to make it work.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: New York
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What makes sf so beautiful? Have you ever been there. Thats one of the dirtiest cities in the u.s.

Case in point.
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