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And actually I find it ironic that I see more people walking out and about shopping in January in Chicago and NYC than I do in LA on a typical beautiful SoCal sunny day.
Are you counting outdoor shopping centers in LA/Socal like the 3rd St Promenande in Santa Monica or The Grove? Nearly all the malls in San Diego are outdoor and they are plenty busy in winter. If you're suggesting there are somehow less people out and about in winter in SoCal compared to Chicago and NY that's a bit ridiculous.
Are you counting outdoor shopping centers in LA/Socal like the 3rd St Promenande in Santa Monica or The Grove? Nearly all the malls in San Diego are outdoor and they are plenty busy in winter. If you're suggesting there are somehow less people out and about in winter in SoCal compared to Chicago and NY that's a bit ridiculous.
Chicago also has outdoor malls where there are plenty of people shopping in the winter.
And yes I am suggesting that. Are there more people sitting outside alfresco in SoCal than NYC and Chicago in the winter? Or just sitting outside and chilling. Yeah.
However, are there more people walking in the street out and about shopping, running errands, walking to get something to eat in SoCal compared to NYC and Chicago in the winter? No.
I mean are you really going to to tell me that in LA and SD have more people walking out and about in downtown than in NYC and Chicago in the winter? Haha.
Chicago and NYC become a little less vibrant in the winter, but there is still plenty of streetlife and people walking out and about, more so than in SD and LA. LA and SD on beautiful sunny days have less.
Good post... You'll see less people out in the parks, sitting on benches, outdoor festivals, standing around talking or eating outside in the neighborhoods and walking around, DT Chicago will still have more people though in the daytime, the 100s of thousands of workers still go to work and still go out to eat lunch and shop. Nov/Dec is actually really busy still b/c of the holidays and probably a spike more so than say, October... Jan-March, not so much. Soon as spring comes, which can vary by year, people will be out in masses soon as it's a nice sunny day above 60.
Chicago also has outdoor malls where there are plenty of people shopping in the winter.
And yes I am suggesting that. Are there more people sitting outside alfresco in SoCal than NYC and Chicago in the winter? Or just sitting outside and chilling. Yeah.
However, are there more people walking in the street out and about shopping, running errands, walking to get something to eat in SoCal compared to NYC and Chicago in the winter? No.
I mean are you really going to to tell me that in LA and SD have more people walking out and about in downtown than in NYC and Chicago in the winter? Haha.
Chicago and NYC become a little less vibrant in the winter, but there is still plenty of streetlife and people walking out and about, more so than in SD and LA. LA and SD on beautiful sunny days have less.
That clearly has to do with the more auto oriented nature of Southern CA and not people not wanting to be outside, so i'm not exactly sure what the "irony" is you speak of. A lot of those people you see outside walking in DT Chicago or NYC don't really have a choice. If you compared outdoor shopping malls I'd be willing to bet you would find Southern Ca's busier overall.
You will find more people out and about for recreation and leisure in SoCal during winter easily though.
Chicago also has outdoor malls where there are plenty of people shopping in the winter.
And yes I am suggesting that. Are there more people sitting outside alfresco in SoCal than NYC and Chicago in the winter? Or just sitting outside and chilling. Yeah.
However, are there more people walking in the street out and about shopping, running errands, walking to get something to eat in SoCal compared to NYC and Chicago in the winter? No.
I mean are you really going to to tell me that in LA and SD have more people walking out and about in downtown than in NYC and Chicago in the winter? Haha.
Chicago and NYC become a little less vibrant in the winter, but there is still plenty of streetlife and people walking out and about, more so than in SD and LA. LA and SD on beautiful sunny days have less.
NYC is plenty vibrant from mid-November to early January, when Christmas decorations and festivities start going up - from the Rockefeller Tree to Macy's window displays and the Radio City Christmas Show - regardless of temperature, you'll never see more people walking around enjoying the atmosphere. I recommend that everyone visits NYC at least once during the early winter, despite the crowds and cold.
After early January things slow up but there is still plenty to do. Sledding and ice skating in Central Park and Rockefeller Center, for one.
Every city has strip malls and some form of suburbia/car-dependency. It doesn't mean it's a bad city. I agree with the poster above with what he/she said about pedestrian living being trendy but not practical. Who's gonna go shopping out east by walking in hot humid weather or freezing cold with snow and hold all those bags?
Huh??? We do it all the time in the Eastern half of this country. We just suck it up You guys Out West don't seriously think we Easterners waste our days indoors all the time during those hot/cold days do you? LOL
The funny thing too with that location is that if you go up a half block it's a nice little, walkable, pedestrian oriented Main St business district.
Yep. I bet if you took a survey of the area, you would find that strip-mall / car oriented development is around 50 percent, at best. And this is in a suburb of Los Angeles. Within city limits this ratio is even lower.
People wildly exaggerate how many strip malls Los Angeles has. Yes it has more than Chicago but it's not like it is Houston or anything. This is a city built by streetcars, walking and driving on boulevards. Not a city built by freeways like so many naively insist.
As far as winter and people walking around, I think this again is a case of people not really knowing what they are talking about. I don't think Chicago has that much more pedestrian vibrancy at any time of the year* - though I think some are exaggerating how much a deterrent cold weather. Sure you won't be running errands during a snow storm, but that only happens every once and while. You get used to the cold pretty quick. That being said I'd rather walk in Los Angeles than Chicago at any time of the year.
*Note that I am referring to outer neighborhoods, there is no point in comparing the Loop and DTLA, because DTLA gets slayed in just about every comparison.
Yep. I bet if you took a survey of the area, you would find that strip-mall / car oriented development is around 50 percent, at best. And this is in a suburb of Los Angeles. Within city limits this ratio is even lower.
People wildly exaggerate how many strip malls Los Angeles has. Yes it has more than Chicago but it's not like it is Houston or anything. This is a city built by streetcars, walking and driving on boulevards. Not a city built by freeways like so many naively insist.
As far as winter and people walking around, I think this again is a case of people not really knowing what they are talking about. I don't think Chicago has that much more pedestrian vibrancy at any time of the year* - though I think some are exaggerating how much a deterrent cold weather. Sure you won't be running errands during a snow storm, but that only happens every once and while. You get used to the cold pretty quick. That being said I'd rather walk in Los Angeles than Chicago at any time of the year.
*Note that I am referring to outer neighborhoods, there is no point in comparing the Loop and DTLA, because DTLA gets slayed in just about every comparison.
Agreed. I would much rather walk around L.A. or San Diego over Chicago any day of the week.
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You guys Out West don't seriously think we Easterners waste our days indoors all the time during those hot/cold days do you? LOL
