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Detroit actually has several colleges within the metro area including University of Michigan (which is one of the best public schools in the US), Wayne State University (which is academically similar to Clemson, Wake Forest, and Georgetown), College for Creative Studies, Lawrence Tech, and Oakland University. So it definitely would not belong on that list.
Minneapolis has the University of Minnesota which is a public ivy.
Yes, Detroit has an abundance of universities..University of Michigan - Ann Arbor being the premier university of the region. The city has a lot of universities. U of M Ann Arbor, U of M Dearborn, Oakland U, Wayne State, U of Detroit, Eastern Michigan, Lawrence Tech..Don't forget U of Windsor just across the river and now U of Toledo and Michigan State are opening Campuses in the city. Plus, a whole host of colleges. While Wayne State has a good Medical School, it is not anywhere near Georgetown or Wake Forest!
I am not sure who defines the "Public Ivies". There are only 8 ivy league schools yet there are way more than 8 public schools which claim to be public ivies. Seems to be a disconnect there.
Let's take my homestate's flagship University of Texas. It's a good state school that is a bargain for in-state students, but its acceptance rate is close to 50% and it has almost 40,000 undergrads.
The term public ivy seems to be a bit of stretch for many of these schools...
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Detroit actually has several colleges within the metro area including University of Michigan (which is one of the best public schools in the US), Wayne State University (which is academically similar to Clemson, Wake Forest, and Georgetown), College for Creative Studies, Lawrence Tech, and Oakland University. So it definitely would not belong on that list.
Minneapolis has the University of Minnesota which is a public ivy.
I think given the general worthlessness of bachelor's degrees nowadays, it is worth taking into account a university's graduate level rankings as well as their overall national ranking (which weighs undergraduate heavily).
I think given the general worthlessness of bachelor's degrees nowadays, it is worth taking into account a university's graduate level rankings as well as their overall national ranking (which weighs undergraduate heavily).
I don't think my degree was worthless at all. I have just as much knowledge and more experience than those who go back and get their Masters right after undergraduate.
I don't think my degree was worthless at all. I have just as much knowledge and more experience than those who go back and get their Masters right after undergraduate.
Totally agree -- especially if people go back to get their masters and have no idea what it is they want to specialize in or focus their skills on! Unless I KNOW I'm going to be in a certain field for the rest of my working life, I don't see the point in going back and getting a masters, not when everybody else and their mother is getting one and it doesn't really differentiate one candidate from the next. I'd much rather be spending my time in the field learning invaluable best practices that no school is going to teach.
One definition of "Top School" is whether they belong to the American Association of Universities (see wikipedia page for a good ref). No definition will be perfect, but if creating a thread like this, it might be useful to add a guideline to remove some ambiguity (and arguments).
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Phoenix, Portland, and Denver also come to mind as cities without a “top” school, none of which are higher ranked than University of Miami (67th) or even SMU (89th) per USNWR. University of Minnesota (Minneapolis) is ranked 57th—not sure I would consider it a “top” school. My definition of a top school would be within the top 25 (possibly top 30)
Phoenix, Portland, and Denver also come to mind as cities without a “top” school, none of which are higher ranked than University of Miami (67th) or SMU (89th) per USNWR. University of Minnesota (Minneapolis) is ranked 57th—not sure I would consider it a “top” school. My definition of a top school would be within the top 25 (possibly top 30)
Phoenix, Portland, and Denver also come to mind as cities without a “top” school, none of which are higher ranked than University of Miami (67th) or even SMU (89th) per USNWR. University of Minnesota (Minneapolis) is ranked 57th—not sure I would consider it a “top” school. My definition of a top school would be within the top 25 (possibly top 30)
While not one of the top schools ranked by the US News Report, iThe University of Minnesota is a member of the prestigious AAU
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