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Old 06-10-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Good list right there. I compiled the list by MSA for these 224 companies:

1. New York | 24 companies
2. Chicago | 13 companies
3. Los Angeles | 13 companies
4. Boston | 10 companies
5. Dallas | 10 companies
6. Philadelphia | 9 companies
7. Atlanta | 7 companies
8. St. Louis | 7 companies
9. Houston | 6 companies
10. Denver | 5 companies
11. Minneapolis | 5 companies
12. San Francisco | 5 companies
13. Birmingham, AL | 4 companies
14. Kansas City | 4 companies
15. Miami | 4 companies
16. Omaha | 4 companies
17. Buffalo, NY | 3 companies
18. Detroit | 3 companies
19. Grand Rapids, MI | 3 companies
20. Green Bay, WI | 3 companies
21. Nashville | 3 companies
22. Phoenix | 3 companies
Cargill is a beast compared to the majority of those companies.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Good list right there. I compiled the list by MSA for these 224 companies:

1. New York | 24 companies
2. Chicago | 13 companies
3. Los Angeles | 13 companies
4. Boston | 10 companies
5. Dallas | 10 companies
6. Philadelphia | 9 companies
7. Atlanta | 7 companies
8. St. Louis | 7 companies
9. Houston | 6 companies
10. Denver | 5 companies
11. Minneapolis | 5 companies
12. San Francisco | 5 companies
13. Birmingham, AL | 4 companies
14. Kansas City | 4 companies
15. Miami | 4 companies
16. Omaha | 4 companies
17. Buffalo, NY | 3 companies
18. Detroit | 3 companies
19. Grand Rapids, MI | 3 companies
20. Green Bay, WI | 3 companies
21. Nashville | 3 companies
22. Phoenix | 3 companies
yes, but to be a Fortune 500, their sales/revenue has to be $5.4B or higher so that takes disqualifies a ton of those privates.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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yes, but to be a Fortune 500, their sales/revenue has to be $5.4B or higher so that takes disqualifies a ton of those privates.
Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was showing who has the most of the largest private companies. Nothing more.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Houston TX
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You're right, Sysco does have a higher revenue than United Continental, but that is not even a point in all of this. You have to compare the two companies that moved/are moving - United Continental and US Foods. United Continental has almost double the revenue that US Foods does, so no it's not necessarily an even switch.
I hear what your saying but I never said the revenue from the companies was the point, you brought the revenue up first. Both cities lost a Fortune 500 company to each other from a merger so in that regard, they are even.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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I hear what your saying but I never said the revenue from the companies was the point, you brought the revenue up first. Both cities lost a Fortune 500 company to each other from a merger so in that regard, they are even.
I understand what you're saying but in my opinion that's a rather naive way of doing it.
A big way to measure that even swap is how much economic output they have, so just because two companies are in the Fortune 500 doesn't mean they're equal at all. That would be like saying that Apple and DirecTV are even swaps because they're both in the Fortune 100, even though Apple has 5X the revenue. The Fortune 500 is a list, but it doesn't mean that any two companies are even close to the same in powerhouse status, revenue, etc. So yes, while both swapped a Fortune 500 company, the one with 2X the revenue went to Chicago, so in that sense it is not an even swap at all.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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I understand what you're saying but in my opinion that's a rather naive way of doing it.
A big way to measure that even swap is how much economic output they have, so just because two companies are in the Fortune 500 doesn't mean they're equal at all. That would be like saying that Apple and DirecTV are even swaps because they're both in the Fortune 100, even though Apple has 5X the revenue. The Fortune 500 is a list, but it doesn't mean that any two companies are even close to the same in powerhouse status, revenue, etc. So yes, while both swapped a Fortune 500 company, the one with 2X the revenue went to Chicago, so in that sense it is not an even swap at all.
That wasn't the point though. In the end, it is still an even swap of fortune 500 companies.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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For Boston/Providence area, you left out CVS. And I think Hasbro is also one o close to it. Both located in Providence area.
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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Still there are quite a bit of Private companies that would still be fortune 500.
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Old 06-11-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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That wasn't the point though. In the end, it is still an even swap of fortune 500 companies.
I understood his point 100%, but measuring things because they're both in a list is extremely naive. Again, tell me how swapping a $36 Billion/year company for an $18 Billion/year company is an "even swap" other than the fact they're on a list with 498 other companies? Just because two entities are on a list doesn't mean they're equal and in this case, it's not. This is not a hard concept to understand in the least bit. It's basic math and finance.

The only way they're equal is the fact that they're both on a list, but that's an extremely naive way of looking at actual economics and finance. They are not equal companies in how much they produce each year, how much they employ, how much revenue they take in, their profit, etc.

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Old 06-11-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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I understood his point 100%, but measuring things because they're both in a list is extremely naive. Again, tell me how swapping a $36 Billion/year company for an $18 Billion/year company is an "even swap" other than the fact they're on a list with 498 other companies? ust because two entities are on a list doesn't mean they're equal as far as how much they produce per year or employ. If you don't understand these simple economic and financial facts, then I feel really bad for you.

The only way they're equal is the fact that they're both on a list, but that's an extremely naive way of looking at actual economics and finance. They are not equal companies in how much they produce each year.
We all know what you're really trying to do here. His point still stands. It was a swap of Fortune 500 companies.
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